Re: Alba 'Mme. Plantier' & others

**"Rosenlund" rosenlund@transport.com>**

From: Jeaa1224@aol.com
>I was just out looking at the rugosa 'White Pavement' and 'Alba'
>and was thinking the very same thing - neither is exactly an elegant
looking
>plant.

Exactly... they are hardy and disease resistant, but not the prettiest
"legs" to look at.  :-P

>Still hoping  'Blanc double de Coubert' (sp.?) will come through
>though...pretty right now and planted in late June - a Grade 1 (2 year old)
>plant. Bloomed almost immediately.

I have this rose too... wonderful fragrance and the first to bloom in my
garden and still tossing out blooms.  Nice.

>Loved the pic of Madame Plantier...the way you and Lynn described her
gently
>arching canes, I think I've just gotta give her a try. Do you know of a
>source for her on her own roots and a Grade 1 plant? I wonder if she'd get
to
>10' in the Midwest?

I've only bought roses from Heirloom here in Oregon, but I'm sure she can be
found, she's not a rare rose.  Alba's can handle cold very well, I'm not
sure how much heat she can take.  I wonder how tall she would get for you.
Stand back!  :-)

>I'll take ya up on the cutting, Carleen.  The other one I'm smitten with is
>your 'Paul Recault'...what an amazing pic you sent earlier this year. Gotta
>have that one too!

You betcha... Hopefully they will take fine.  Yes, I love 'Paul Recault' as
well... blooms that last SOOO long.

>I'm still grappling with the defoliating 'All That Jazz' shrub roses. I had
>to resort to copper fungicide, which did stop the defoliation on 2 of the
3,
>but the third just gave
>up the ghost and she'sa naked lady now - her third time this summer. Very
>frustrating as she's one of two anchoring the garage side panels. Gorgeous
>"jazzy" colors of dark salmon with yellow overtones. Lovely, large single
>blooms with pretty stamens and deep salmon in bud. Glossy lightish green
>leaves...very attractive plant even when not in bloom -well, at least when
>she has leaves. ;-P

Don't know what to tell ya... I've not grown or bought a Hybrid Tea rose in
over 5 years.  Had over 50 at my old place and just watched their numbers
dwendle each year.  Some from winter loss, some because I had it with them
and gave them the boot.

Some of the Modern shrub roses (like Austins) I'm not that impressed with
either... still have troubles with a nice shrub form on many of them... I do
love my old roses.

>Great to get all this action on the rose-list. What roses has everyone else
>had good luck with this year? Our heat's been way down in the Midwest but
the
>humidity's been up there, causing all these fungal problems we've been
>experiencing.

Hum... my favorite bloomer this year would be.... 'Louise Odier' a repeat
old Bourbon rose.  It took her a while to "settle in" but she's a beaut this
year.   Still not the BEST of form, but lovely blooms and certainly a pretty
thing over all.

                ~Carleen~
Keeper of Sheep and Old Roses

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