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Re: La Reine Victoria

Keith and all,

Just a guess... any chance you had "Reine de Violets" in mind when you
suggested pegging (?)  I'm not positive, but I think it is the Hybrid
Perpetual that is the ideal rose for pegging, versus the Bourbon, but I'm
no expert.

...and speaking of Bourbons, did you know that Bourbons resulted from a
natural cross between ' Old Blush ' (a china) and ' Autumn Damask, ' (an
old European) both planted as hedges on the French island then called
Bourbon and now called Reunion?  The first cultivator was painted by
Redoute:  http://www.heritageprints.com/redoute.htm  in 1817  There are
about forty varieties still in commerce today. (ANTIQUE ROSES FOR THE
SOUTH)

I would love to see a picture of a pegged "Heritage". Bet it's gorgeous!  I
have heard that some of the English roses can be somewhat ungainly in form,
so pegging sounds like a good idea.

I hadn't heard of pegging to the base. Is this something new?  Sounds neat
(uh oh, I'm dating myself here).

Patty
zone 8b
Louisiana

>  I don't usually attach this much of the original message(s) but if
someone
> tuned in late, they'd have no idea what I'm writing about.  I'm not so
sure
> myself.
> 
> The traditional way of dealing with the OGR's lengthy canes is by
pegging,
> and I've had very little experience with it.  I did it this year to an
> unusually long break on 'Heritage' and it worked beautifully, but I'm no
> means a pro at it, and I was hoping someone else who was would jump in
and
> help with the letters below.
> 
> Anyway, since no one has (yet), I'll tell you what little I know.  When
one
> of these long canes breaks (and it's not something from root stock) you
peg
> the cane to the ground.  This stimulates the lateral buds to blooms and
> you're rewarded with sprays at every leaf terminal.  As I said, it worked
> quite well for me the one time I've tried it.  What I've not done yet is
> something called 'self-pegging'.  I assume that one takes the ungainly
> growth and pins it back to the base of the shrub, again stimulating the
> laterals to bloom, and tidying up the bush so it's presentable.  If
anyone
> has a technique for doing this (materials, nifty knots, whatever) I'd
love
> to hear about it.
> 
> My real problem, being in zone 5, is that usually by the time I have a
canes
> long enough to bend back without snapping, frost threatens to hit.  As
it's
> about to do tonight.
> 
> Tommorow might be a _really_ depressing day for me.  The roses finally
look
> nothing short of spectacular.
> 
> Keith, WNY, zone 5 [insert evil laugh here]
> 
> 
> >
> >Whenever you prune, you stimulate new growth, which can then be
> >frost-damaged.  I see you're in zone 8 though, as am I.  We just did our
> >August pruning for the late-summer/fall flush.
> >
> >My suggestion is to keep cutting until flower/growth production tapers
off
> >as the days become cooler; then let them harden off gradually.
> >
> >Patty
> >> << My La Reine Victoria recently put on new growth on three shoots
which
> >>  were all over 7 feet high.  It looked unsightly and unbalanced.
> >>  Although I procrastinated, I finally chopped them off about two weeks
> >>  ago.  Naturally, new growth is now occurring.  Did I do a boo-boo?
> >>   >>
> >>
> >> I have the same question. I heard that the canes need to harden for
the
> >> winter. We
> >> have been getting 80's still and my roses keep growing. I see alot of
new
> >> growth on
> >> them how will I know if they have hardened for the winter. Should I
cut
> >them
> >> off close
> >> to frost?
> >> Thanks zone 8
> >
> >
> >
>
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