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Re: [SANS] Sans. Nelsonii

At 10:22 PM 1/5/98 -0400, George de Verteuil wrote:
>I don't have any first hand information on this subject, but maybe I've
>read the limited (alas, very limited) literature on this subject more
>than some.  (Gee, this guy sure had a big head!!!).  So here goes.
>1) On pg 44 of Juan C's book, he describes S.t 'Nelsoni' as dark green
>with little or no banding and forming a stacking plant with a short
>stem.  He indicates that it may be produced (often, not consistently
>apparently) from leaves of S.t. laurenti 'Compacta' indicating that it's
>truly a var of S.t.  He cautions not to confuse with the SPECIES Sans.
>nelsoni, so clearly this expert is well familiar with the latter. No
>mention is made of flowers of the S.t "Nelsoni'.
>2) Swinbourne's "Sans in Cultivation in Australia" on pg 15 (and fig.
>29) also describes S. 'Nelsoni' and also attributes it as a var of S.t.
>and has a description similar to J.C. (actually, Swinbournes work
>pre-dates that of Juan C.) except that he describes the plant form as a
>rosette although leaf dimensions are much the same. He says that it's
>not known to flower.
>3) I have a plant which I picked up from a roadside vendor which very
>much resembles Swinbourne's description (I have seen no other Sans with
>such dark green leaves and mine has no sign of banding whatever), but I
>have had it less than one year and it only has a single growth.
>4) Concerning John Gamesby's original entry on this thread, Brown's 1915
>monograph attributes S. subspicata to Baker 1889.  Was Horst Pfenning
>around at that date?  This S. subspicata thing really seems to further
>muddy the water!!  Also John, apart from mentioning that it was a large
>clump, you did not give us anything else to go on.  A summary
>description from you or Hermine would be appreciated so that others of
>us can get a feel for the plant you have labelled as PF115 S. nelsoni.
>5) It really would be appreciated if some of the experts on this list
>would give the details on the S. nelsoni species so that we can be
>further enlightened.
>Cheers from very sunny, warm as usual, Trinidad.
>George.
>
>My nelsonii is singularly unmaarked and a good deep green, waxy with a bit
of a supple point on the end of the leaf. it is vase shaped with recurving
strap shaped leaves. maybe almost 2" wide and 15 inches long. it flwers and
sets seed.
from compacta i get trifasciata type plants from from cuttings but not
nelsoni...that is the nelsonii i have.

I always try cuttings of unusual plants to see to what they revert, and am
occasinally surprised by something new and different.

hermine
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