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Re: [SANS] Forwarded letter from Tony Mace about website possibility.

I just got home yesterday after attending the 4th Philippine Floriculture
Congress in a southern island and I would like to comment on this.

The problem mentioned by Tony Mace is not the difficulty of ftp-ing to his
cactus mall but rather the time delay of 24 hours in the displaying of
whatever we want to display on our webpages after we ftp to his site. The
process of ftp-ing should be straightforward, if my impression is correct
based on what I have read so far.

BTW, although I have not designed any webpages yet, I do have some
knowledge of html which I learned from self-study. And, similarly, though I
have not published any webpages yet, I have played around in modifying
webpages that I have downloaded from the internet. Based on these limited
experiences, I can say that if we are not too demanding, we can easily
adapt and modify existing webpages that we like and, after changing the
contents and with due permission, turn them into our very own webpages.

The main problem above all these will be managing the site, which means
that someone has to set the direction for it, get the contents that will
reflect this direction, and supervise those who will take care of the
technical aspects.

If there is no one on this list who has the technical background to take
care of the technical details, I am willing to volunteer. It may be the
case of the half-blind leading the blind, but I am confident that I can
learn as I go along. All I will need is someone who knows what needs to be
done and who has access to knowledgeable people and the influence to get
them to contribute contents.

I hope I can help.

George
Metro-Manila
Philippines

At 09:25 PM 6/30/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Please read the attached letter completely.  Is there someone here who
>understands the technical stuff better than I do and could work with him on
>learning how to ftp to his site, etc.?
>
>Tony Mace wrote:
>>
>> In message <377A1D0A.B75E4FA1@netzero.net> Diana Pederson writes:
>> > Hi Tony Mace:
>> >
>> > The On-Line Sansevieria club has just run into a sudden need for a new
>> > server.  Yshoo took over Geocities and is now claiming full copyright to
>> > all information uploaded to that server.  We desperately need to have our
>> > material moved since we, as a group, were just in the process of making
>> > some major upgrades.
>> >
>> > Is there any chance that this could be uploaded to the Cactus and
Succulent
>> > mall?
>>
>> I have heard of one or two other stories of some of the free webspace
>> suppliers claiming this copyright.  It seems somewhat outrageous.  I
>> don't know how they will try to enforce this in some European countries
>> where I understand copyright can only be assigned in a written contract.
>> It sounds like more financial opportunities for the lawyers.
>>
>> I think it is possible we can provide a home for your pages.
>>
>> There is no problem with space on the Cactus and Succulent Plant Mall.
>> I rent 100Mb and am currently only using about half of this.  I do have
>> one problem, in that the Cactus Mall has been so sucessful in attracting
>> traffic (we are averaging around 1,100 vistors a day), that I am starting
>> to get excess bandwidth charges.  These are as yet not very large but I
need
>> to watch the situation does not get out of hand.  I have acquired from
>> various sources a further 60Mb of webspace which I can use for various
>> purposes (eg I have some personal webspace, some belongs to the BCSS and
>> I have a couple of other free sources) and I am using these to reduce the
>> bandwidth usage of the main site.
>>
>> A few questions about the Sanseviera website:
>>
>>  How much space do you need?
>>
>>  Can you give me any idea of the current vistor rate so that I can
>>  estimate the usage?
>>
>>  Apart from storage of standard html and image files does this website
>>  need any extra software facilities?
>>
>> There is one other thing which might be a problem for you.  You can
>> upload pages to the cactus mall by anonymous FTP
(ftp://www.cactus-mall.com)
>> but this does not upload into the live area for security reasons. When you
>> have uploaded updates etc you would have to notify me to make the transfer
>> to the live area.  I think in practise this would not be a great problem
>> since there will rarely be more than a 24 hour delay before I or someone
>> else here does this. It is possible for other people to have a password and
>> account on the Cactus Mall to do this, but our supplier charges for this
>> facility and I would have to pass the costs on (It is something like 5 US$
>> per month which is rather a lot unless such a facility is used heavily).
>>
>> --
>> Tony Mace
>> http://www.cactus-mall.com
>> The Cactus and Succulent Plant Mall
>
>
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