I posted a note yesterday or the day before that
got buried in the "Thread" sorting in the archives. It's easier to find
with the "Date" sort. I don't even remember whether it was on Iris-photos
The point--and it is worth going back and finding
that post, I think--is that nearly all pinks have a chance of carrying
plicatas. They showed up repeatedly in David Hall's pink seedlings, but
never were good enough, as I understand it, to be worth pursuing.
The origin of all this is behind MOROCCO ROSE and
SEASHELL (one word or two, depending on where you look). Dr. Loomis in
Colorado produced three bombshell progenitors of the pinks--the two above, and
SQ-72, later registered by Melba Hamblen as PIKE'S PEAK PINK.
The very foundation of this pink breeding line--or
line of pink breeders--was in a cross of two seedlings, one a plicata, the other
a variegata. I'm not sure which is which, but W. J. Fryer x Ricardi (one
of the collected tetraploids) was one of the grandparental crosses, and the
other was from Lent A. Williamson x Unknown.
I could make a wry remark about how many times
"Unknown" has been used as a parent, but....not funny.
This Lent A. Williamson x Unknown is also given for
the parentage of DOLLY MADISON. Lent A. Williamson is shown as from Amas x
......., but I have seen, probably in TWOI, a diploid named as the (probable)
pollen parent. I have seen speculation, I think, although I am uncertain
where....possibly in L. F. Randolph, et. al., eds, *Garden Irises* that Amas and
Ricardi may be the same clone, or at least both the same species, although no
one can say for sure which. Amas is still around--even Schreiners list
The four foundation breeders in the Hall line
(although others were involved) were W. R. DYKES, DOLLY MADISON, MOROCCO
ROSE and PRAIRIE SUNSET. I might mention that Hall lived and did his iris
breeding in a suburb north of Chicago near the shores of Lake Michegan, and
Orville Fay was just north of him in the next one or two suburbs. Morocco
Rose either has about the same breeding as Seashell, or is from a cross of
Seashell with a red seedling from Lent A. Williamson, depending on which source
Some of the first from these include GOLDEN
EAGLE and a seedling #39-62, a pinkish blend I believe, which is the pollen
parent of several of the 42-xx seedlings, the shell pinks.
Now--back to Colorado. Dr. Loomis got
SEASHELL right at the beginning--something like second generation away from his
first crosses in this line. Seashell pollen on Purissima is believed to be
the ancestry of SQ-72/Pike's Peak Pink. One of the parents of Purissima is
Conquistador--which is also one of the parents of both SAN FRANCISCO and LOS
ANGELES, both plicatas. That implies that there may be one, less
likely two doses of plicata in Purissima.
Loomis sent SQ-72 (I can't help calling it that--I
had it and used it under seedling number, not name) to Tell Muhlestein in Provo,
Tell also got GOLDEN EAGLE and some of David Hall's
42-xx seedlings which he used extensively. Later he also sent Tell some of
the 44-xx seedlings, a couple of which he later also passed on to
Tell crossed Hall's Golden Eagle with Loomis'
SQ-72/Pike's Peak Pink and got PINK TOWER and PINK FORMAL.
Now, if you followed all that trail of
interrelationships, all of the Hall, Fay and the Utah pinks (Tell, Melba
Hamblen, etc.) have this Loomis work at their very foundation--and one of the
parents involved was a plicata.
If you look at the HIPS site Dykes list and click
on pedigree for BEVERLY SILLS or for VANITY, or for JUNE MEREDITY, or for
CHERIE, you can see all this history laid out in graphic form.
I saw it asserted on either Iris-talk or
Iris-photos in the past few days that Vanity is a glaciata--and I think it was
Chuck Chapman who said it--and he would know.
In any event, Light Beam demonstrates that Beverly
Sills (the iris) carries at least two plicata genes (alleles).
When we say "plicata" referring to the genetics,
think of it as a generic term for plicata, luminata, and glaciata (and
zonal, if it involves still another allele) all as a series, any one of
which will do as a "plicata" gene.
In fact, with this ancestry I am pointing out, I
don't think I would be amiss in saying that almost *anything* with a tangerine
beard may carry plicata genes.
The reason I say "almost" is that not all tangerine
beards come directly from this complex. The ancestry of Sass' FLORA
ZENOR is kindred, however. It is from Dore X ......., Dore being from
Wambliska x Rameses. Wambliska is from the same parents as Purissima;
Rameses is one parent of Prairie Sunset. Sound familiar? Same
ancestors as all the rest of the pinks. Flora Zenor doesn't figure very
heavily in later generations for a good reason--you had to swallow twice before
reaching out with the tweezers. At least that was my own
The Lapham pink line traces back in part to
SPINDRIFT, which is from Dr. Loomis' pinks also, so even the Lapham pinks are
related to the rest of them.
Now, all that is a head full of stuff. The
one significant point here, however, is that plicata alleles can be scattered
all the way through tangerine bearded lines. They all without exception
trace back either to a plicata or to a plicata
Neil Mogensen z 7 western NC
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