"Have you considered that the one with yellow rim and violet luminata wash in center of falls might be a luminata? The violet is washed and in the center of the fall. iIf it was at the edge the edge would be red or brown, a combination of the violet and yellow.
Chuck Chapman, Guelph, Ontario, Canada. Zone 4/5
_Chuck: No I hadn't.. Like I said before, the variety of results were a little unknown to me and hard to describe....and you know now that I went back to my photo archives and found a full portrait I seems obvious to my now. I think that it is. The shoulders were a little narrow and the hafts too rusty brownish so I passed on it. So much hindsight...This is one of the reasons I really like having photographs of all the seedlings from a cross, I can learn from them even when they are not in bloom....I was so busy with other wonders that I overlooked that detail....Thanks Paul
I'll enclose a better straight forward photo that is clearer....
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