Re: Re: VERY RED


It is my understanding that what you have outlined is
already being worked on so maybe wel will see results
in the next couple of years. 
--- nmogens <neilm@charter.net> wrote:
> --- In iris-photos@yahoogroups.com, Pat Mitchell
> <corgilover@w...> 
> wrote:
> "I thought there was no "true red" iris....I'm still
> on the trail of 
> a true red - not a brown/red." 
> 
> Aren't we all!  I'd love to see a true red iris. 
> There's a simple 
> way to get one---just use DNA transfer techniques of
> those segments--
> or that segment--of the chromosome(s) involved in
> producing the true 
> red color in some other irid--gladiolus, montbrecia
> and such.  Then 
> introduce those segments into a diploid TB, imbreed
> for the true red 
> color to show without the violet of current
> beardeds, then double the 
> chromosomes.
> 
> Of course, then one would have to go to work
> breeding for form, 
> substance, branching, growability, smoothness and
> clarity of color, 
> and that indefinable quality "charm."  Shouldn't
> take more than fifty 
> years and a million dollars or so.  Simple.
> 
> The only problem is, which chromosome(s)are those
> DNA segments on?  
> And would it matter where you tucked the
> transplanted sections in the 
> bearded iris?  I'm assuming the iris and the irid
> would have similar 
> sequences in similar chromosome sections for
> producing anthocyanin 
> colors.  But then, again, maybe not.  Might even be
> two or three 
> other problems to work around.
> 
> The remarkable thing about what I'm describing
> is--that it IS 
> possible.  I suspect, however, that a few other
> projects would take 
> priority--such as those for third world nutrition,
> inheritable 
> diseases in humans and our livestock and eliminating
> genetic 
> susceptibility to some common but devastating
> illnesses.
> 
> In the meantime I suppose we can enjoy DYNAMITE and
> PLAY WITH FIRE 
> for what they already are--sorta red, but red enough
> to enjoy--and 
> remarkably good garden subjects.
> 
> I'm not trying to make fun or be critical.  I really
> would like to 
> see the true red happen.  So would a lot of other
> people.  There is a 
> certain frustration in knowing it could be done--and
> very probably 
> won't be.
> 
> Neil Mogensen   z 6b/7a near
> Asheville/Hendersonville, NC
> 
> 
> 
> 
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