Re: Novelty BB: Fran's Flattie


Hi Dave,
I planted 43 seeds from my cross of Cybernet X Rhythm
last fall and this spring 31 germinated. Surprisingly,
the seedlings are large and robust. I thought the
seedlings would be smaller and grassier than the TB
crosses. I will keep the group posted if anything
interesting comes of this cross. I believe the flat
blooming trait can be passed on. Mike Sutton has flat
seedlings from pollen he found on Six Pack.

Sterling
Seattle, WA zone 8

--- David Ferguson <manzano57@msn.com> wrote:
> It's the first time I thought of it too.  The only
> diploid flattie I had bloom this year was 'Rhythm',
> and the pollen was dried up and the petals deformed
> (dry heat), so I don't think it was any good. 
> Anyway, I didn't do anything with it this year.
> 
> It'll be fun to see what comes of it.
> 
> Dave
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Sterling Okase<s*@yahoo.com> 
>   To:
>
iris-photos@yahoogroups.com<i*@yahoogroups.com>
> 
>   Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:37 PM
>   Subject: Re: [iris-photos] Novelty BB: Fran's
> Flattie
> 
> 
>   Hi Dave,
>   I have Clematis, Rhythm and Little Freak. I didn't
>   think to cross them with one another. I will try
> it
>   and see if I can get pods. Last year I found
> pollen on
>   Rhythm, Clematis and Fran's Flattie. I crossed
> them
>   with Cybernet, a diploid broken color MTB. Rhythm
> and
>   Clematis pollen produced pods. Fran's Flattie
> pollen
>   might be sterile. But I will try crossing them
> with
>   each other and see if I can get any pods. 
> 
>   Sterling
>   Seattle, WA. zone 8
> 
>   --- David Ferguson <manzano57@msn.com> wrote:
>   > I think this is the one that has been thought to
>   > perhaps be a sport of 'Edina'?
>   > 
>   > Anyway, it might be fun to see what would happen
> if
>   > crossed with other diploid flatties such as
>   > 'Clematis', 'Rhythm', 'Little Freak', and some
> that
>   > are trying to be such as 'Loreley'.  It would be
>   > interesting to see if it is inheritable, and
> what
>   > results from crossing two diploid flatties.
>   > 
>   > Dave
>   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   >   From: Sterling
> Okase<s*@yahoo.com> 
>   >   To:
>   >
>  
>
iris-photos@yahoogroups.com<i*@yahoogroups.com>
>   > 
>   >   Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:07 AM
>   >   Subject: [iris-photos] Novelty BB: Fran's
> Flattie
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   This is Fran's Flattie, a flat blooming non
>   > registered
>   >   cultivar that's being passed around. I think
> this
>   >   might be a diploid but can't be sure. Some of
> the
>   >   standard petals don't turn into falls
> completely,
>   >   meaning if they are laying flat they have
> beards.
>   >   Surprisingly for a small plant with branching
>   > that's
>   >   nothing spectacular, it has an average bud
> count
>   > of 9.
>   >   It also has pollen so I have been putting it
> on a
>   >   couple of my diploids. 
>   > 
>   >   Sterling
>   >   Seattle, WA zone 8
> 
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