Corn gluten is sold by Preen as Preen for vegetable gardens.
kris
Jan Lauritzen wrote:
>
> One of the reasons I have not used Roundup or preemergent products is
> that I have always avoided both of them. I do add fertilizer but
> nothing else. However the article you referred me to mentions the use
> of corn gluten as a preemergent. It looks to be safe and organic.
> Now all I have to do is find out where to purchase it around here. I
> will start lookiing. Thanks.
>
> By the way, when I went to the site by clicking on it in your email it
> installed something on my computer which claimed to be an alert for
> ads, viruses, etc. I immediately told it to uninstall but it took
> several minutes to go through the entire process. Once that was
> cleaned up I copied the site into Google and went directly to it
> without a problem.
>
> Thanks for all the advice. I am now looking for corn gluten.
>
> Jan in Chatsworth
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Francesca Thoolen <arilpums@comcast.net>
> *To:* iris-photos@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 19, 2009 1:50:02 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [iris-photos] Crabgrass with photo
>
>
>
> It looks like it, unfortunately. Have you investigated preemergent
> applications? Also the nurseries can give you some preliminary info
> before you actually try it. Also try internet with 'preemergent usages'
>
> Francesca
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Jan Lauritzen <mailto:janicelauritzen@yahoo.com>
> *To:* iris-photos@ yahoogroups. com
> <mailto:iris-photos@yahoogroups.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 19, 2009 10:36 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [iris-photos] Crabgrass with photo
>
>
>
> Francesca, Yes, I do have over three acres but I only try to
> control the weeds in the iris and flower areas - about 1/3-1/2
> acre. I do try to pull the 2-3 in tall seedlings and they are not
> the problem. It is the clumps which come from the underground
> runners. They can travel over a foot and are frequently over 6-8
> inches deep. They go under and through the iris rhizomes. As I
> dig and try to pull them out it disturbs the rhizomes. Also, the
> runners break off and every node which escapes grows. It is a
> tedious process to try to follow and get them out without digging
> up the rhizomes. That is why I am seeking a method to kill the
> grass without disturbing the rhizomes.
>
> I am attaching a picture to show everyone what I am dealing with.
> Maybe you call it something else. Here we call it crabgrass.
>
> Thanks to you and to everyone else.
>
> Jan in Chatsworth
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Francesca Thoolen <arilpums@comcast. net>
> *To:* iris-photos@ yahoogroups. com
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:26:23 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [iris-photos] REB: Belvi Queen - Mike, Griff,
> Janet, Loic
>
>
> Jan, We live in the SF East Bay Area, and for poison oak we cut
> them, very carefully, down to the ground, leaving a small stub and
> take weed killer and paint the tips, pure, right out of the bottle
> or can. They not only die but do not come back! This of course
> would be difficult to apply to crab grass which up scattering
> seeds covers all areas, even where irises grow. For them, we wait
> for their new 'seedlings', when they are about 2-3" tall, wet the
> ground to soften it and then just patiently pull them out before
> they can grow any taller and reach seed scatter status. The roots
> are about only 1 inch or so long and they come out rather easily.
> Although tedious as it may sound it does protect the valuable
> plants we do not want to kill. However this would not be practical
> if you are talking acreage!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* AISSlides <mailto:gbyp123@yahoo.com>
> *To:* iris-photos@ yahoogroups. com
> <mailto:iris-photos@yahoogroups.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:03 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [iris-photos] REB: Belvi Queen - Mike, Griff,
> Janet, Loic
>
>
> I had a thought - have not tried it around irises.
> We live in the mountains and have plenty of poison oak,
> it can get very expensive to use round-up so we go to the
> 99 cents store and buy bleach. 100% in the sprayer and
> coat the leaves top and bottom - from a distance!
> In less than 24-hours they are shrivled and dead.
> Nettles have leaves---??? ?
>
> Food for thought.
>
> Janet
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Jan Lauritzen <janicelauritzen@ yahoo.com
> <http://yahoo.com>>
> *To:* iris-photos@ yahoogroups. com
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 19, 2009 12:01:51 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [iris-photos] REB: Belvi Queen - Mike, Griff,
> Janet, Loic
>
>
> Thank you to Mike, Griff, Janet, and Loic. All of you made
> great suggestions. I was afraid to try roundup in any way. I
> will definitely try some of these techniques this fall. Maybe
> I can get rid of some of the crabgrass at least in the one
> iris area. It won't so for the stinging nettles because they
> are just everywhere. The crabgrass is in clumps but with
> those nasty underground runners.
>
> Thank you all again,
>
> Jan in Chatsworth
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* J. Griffin Crump <jgcrump@cox. net>
> *To:* iris-photos@ yahoogroups. com
> *Sent:* Friday, September 18, 2009 7:15:23 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [iris-photos] REB: Belvi Queen
>
>
> Jan -- When weeds that can't be pulled -- i.e., certain
> ground covers that spread by underground runners, including,
> even, bamboo -- invade an iris bed, I pour maximum strength
> Roundup into a small container like a baby food jar, then use
> an artist's paint brush to apply the Roundup directly to the
> plant leaves. It works beautifully on the ground covers, but
> takes more than one application on the bamboo. -- Griff
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Jan Lauritzen <mailto:janicelauritzen@yahoo.com>
> *To:* iris-photos@ yahoogroups. com
> <mailto:iris-photos@yahoogroups.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, September 18, 2009 2:05 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [iris-photos] REB: Belvi Queen
>
>
> Linda, Going back to last week, you said "With the magic
> of Roundup, a few rebloomers are appearing... " How do
> you use Roundup around the irises without getting those
> strange flowers. My neighbor used it a few years ago and
> I had some terrible blooms on the plants near his field.
>
> I ask because I have a terrible crabgrass problem in one
> of my iris beds. No matter how much I dig, some still
> escapes me and it comes back in full attack.
>
> Thanks, Jan in Chatsworth
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Linda Mann <lmann@lock-net. com>
> *To:* iris-photos@ yahoogroups. com
> *Sent:* Monday, September 7, 2009 12:55:50 PM
> *Subject:* [iris-photos] REB: Belvi Queen
>
>
>
> With the magic of Roundup, a few rebloomers are appearing...
>
> This one is such a tough, reliable old thing, it surprises
> me no
> descendants are registered. Not very fertile? Ugly ugly
> children?
>
> Linda Mann
> E. TN.
>
>
>
>
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