<<Renown also has four sets of "recessive reduction " of
carotene.>>
Spring of 2009 I took these pictures of
RENOWN.
What pigment/pigments are we seeing on the haft of
RENOWN?
My work with RENOWN is new and very limited. For me, most
crosses have
produced 20 or less seed per pod, and germination has been
minimal.
(Sweet Musette x Memphis Miss) X Renown (20 seed) produced 3
first year
germinants and 1 second year germinant. Two lavender to the
rosy side,
one much darker with reddish hues. The fourth hasn't bloomed
yet.
Treasured X Renown (20 seed) produced ONE very nice seedling--reverse
very pale yellow with just a hint of lavender.
Betty
Wilkerson
Bridge In Time Iris Zone 6
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From: irischapman@aim.com
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Subject: Re: [iris-photos] Re: HYB: HoM X Renown
sdlgs
A speculation on the results.
Judging by results of
offspring of HoM it would seem as if it has four
sets of the recessive
genes for alternative yellow, and four sets of
the recessive "reduction of
carotene" genes.
Renown also has four sets of "recessive reduction " of
carotene. Thus
all seedlings of HoM X Renown will have four sets of "rrc"
.
If one of seedlings was cream, I would check solubility of the
cream
pigment. Perhaps it is a water soluble pigment. It is not likely
an
alternative yellow. But there is still more to learn about all
this.
Chuck Chapman
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From: Linda
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Tue, Sep 29, 2009 12:05 pm
Subject: [iris-photos] Re: HYB: HoM X Renown
sdlgs
There are about 14 seedlings from this cross in this age group
(~half a
dozen younger, not big enough to bloom yet).
So far, 3
have bloomed, 2 were white, one had cream or yellow,
but
small
flowers on a 6 inch tall stalk and got beaten to pieces by
9 inches of
rain, and I didn't get a photo or look closely at it. At
least another
2 are making stalks - depending on first frost date, may
or may not get
to see them this fall. 5 or more/14 = ~1/3?
I
didn't inspect the first seedling closely, but the photo
(non-glamor
shot attached) shows yellowish brownish (i.e., yellow plus
anthocyanin)
veins on the hafts and strong yellow/gold beard. The one
currently
blooming, has no yellow visible except distinctive color -
pale (almost
greenish?) yellow beard in the throat. May not be
alternate yellow
pigment, but is an alternate looking shade of yellow
;-). I will see if
my upside down camera trick can capture
it.
HoM occasionally gives t beards in crosses with pinks. I think
I've
seen two - one from CSONG, one from PINK QUARTZ. So I think that
means
it has regular yellow as well?
When you asked about
"shoulders", Donald, I assumed you meant the
yellow
shoulder patch
that some irises have (i.e., GOLD BURST type) which my
own pet theory
is that it's genetically related to yellow fall spot
pattern,
<not> the yellow or pink version of the anthocyanin
variegata
type spot.
Did you mean that type of solid "blush" of
yellow or the yellow
(usually
plus anthocyanin) haft veins that
Chuck is talking about?
Either way, I dunno.
This year, one of
the few successful crosses was HoM X an orange
seedling. If enough of
them live and bloom, that might answer the
alternate yellow
question.
Linda Mann
east TN
gorgeous fall weather - 49oF
last night
