Re: perrieri


Chuck,
If I can remember, I'll try and keep track of numbers of colors for 
crosses this season and get back to you. Just roughly estimating, it 
looks like the 29 Kupari X rubromarginata seedlings are split 50:50 
between purple and amoena. Kupari x variegata haven't started to 
bloom yet, but at least five or six seedlings will be soon. The one 
seedling I have from variegata X mellita has yellow standards and 
falls with purple and burgundy stripes over yellow and white falls. 
I've got about a dozen Kupari X cengialtii seedlings that should 
bloom next year. And a bunch of species X species, and species X 
cultivar, type seedlings germinating right now outdoors. Most of 
these are from combinations of Consummation, variegata, cengialtii, 
Floridor, Kupari, and my variegata X mellita hybrid (which is being 
registered as 'Clown Pants' and will probably be introduced by Iris 
City Gardens in the near future).
Talk to you later, Tom 


--- In iris-species@yahoogroups.com, irischapman@n... wrote:
> I thought that Kupari was considered to be a glaciata white. Your 
results are certainly consistent with this. Would like to have more 
details of your crosses. Patents, and  coulours and numbers of 
offspring, if available.
> 
> Chuck Chapman
> 
> "tesilvers" <tesilvers@y...> wrote:
> 
> >Neil,
> >Thanks for the Iris perrieri info. Actually, after I posted the 
> >question, I did some google searching and then searched the 
old "Iris 
> >Talk" archives. It appears that Iris furcata and Iris perrieri 
have 
> >been considered, at times, to be synonyms for Iris aphylla. But it 
> >also has been mentioned that they are diploids, whereas typical 
> >aphylla clones are tetraploid. I can't remember offhand which was 
> >which, but the bloomstalks are very different for the two. One is 
> >branched/forked at the rhizome with mostly green spathes. The 
other 
> >is unbranched and has a lot of purple on the spathes. I can't wait 
to 
> >see the blooms and try out some hybridizing.
> >
> >As for the white pallida X suaveolens seedlings, I won't know a 
lot 
> >about their fertility until I've worked with them a little more 
(this 
> >is first bloom for the majority of them). But I did get modest 
seed 
> >to set on the few blooms last year. So far, that seed hasn't 
> >germinated. Those blooms occurred during the heat of summer; but I 
> >had noticed that they didn't have any pollen. I haven't gotten to 
get 
> >a good look at all of these newly opened seedlings, but I have 
seen 
> >ample pollen on at least one of the early opened purple ones. And 
> >I'll be out there today, checking the rest.
> >
> >I'm pretty sure that the Kupari white pallida is a recessive 
white. 
> >It hasn't given me any completely white offspring in crosses. Only 
> >purple selfs, bitones, amoenas and plicatas. 
> >
> >And by the way, I've got a batch of seedlings getting ready to 
bloom 
> >from Kupari X Iris variegata (Beardsley clone). Last year one 
bloomed 
> >and it was a plicata. It should be intersting to see what the rest 
> >look like. That plicata seedling didn't produce any pollen and I 
> >couldn't get any seed to set on it either.
> >
> >I'm looking forward to more discussions about the diploid bearded 
> >crowd. So, stay tuned.
> >
> >Tom
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> Chuck Chapman, Guelph, Ontario, Canada. Zone 4/5
> 
> 
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