Re: Neomarica eximia
- Subject: Re: Neomarica eximia
- From: R* B* <r*@yahoo.com>
- Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 08:01:06 -0700 (PDT)
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Very interesting! Letters to the editor even? That means it's serious! :)
R From: Chuck Chapman <irischapman@aim.com> To: iris-species@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [iris-species] Neomarica eximia Thanks.
Actually there have been several genetic studies. Here are two Chauveau, O., Eggers, L., Souza-Chies, T. T., & Nadot, S. (2012). Oil-producing flowers within the Iridoideae (Iridaceae): evolutionary trends in the flowers of the New World genera. Annals of botany, 110(3), 713-729. Lovo, J., Winkworth, R. C., & Mello-Silva, R. (2012). New insights into Trimezieae (Iridaceae) phylogeny: what do molecular data tell us?. Annals of botany, 110(3), 689-702. And there is a publication war over classification system currently ongoing. Publications and letters to editors arguing for their view. and which genus names are valid or nor valid etc. Chuck Chapman -----Original Message----- From: Rodney Barton <rbartontx@yahoo.com> To: iris-species <iris-species@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thu, Apr 17, 2014 7:20 am Subject: Re: [iris-species] Neomarica eximia His thesis published last year. It's available for download if you register. You may need to be affiliated with a university. RevisÃo taxonÃmica e estudos filogenÃticos do gÃnero Neomarica s.l. (Iridaceae) It is in Portuguese and I've only used a translator on select bits so I may not be getting the full picture. I believe this is the first DNA work published on the Neomarica. I'm sure we've yet to hear the final word. R From: Chuck Chapman <irischapman@aim.com> To: iris-species@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [iris-species] Neomarica eximia Which of Gil's articles are you looking at? There seems to be three groups in south America looking at the iridaceae there, and they don't seem to be talking to each other. they all have different views. Two of them are having a publications war re nomenclature.Chuck Chapman-----Original Message-----From: Rodney Barton <rbartontx@yahoo.com>To: iris-species <iris-species@yahoogroups.com>Sent: Wed, Apr 16, 2014 1:28 pmSubject: Re: [iris-species] Neomarica eximia [1 Attachment] Chuck,Here's the plant. Not much to see really, only a single fan. The stalk was almost this tall before I staked it. I'm sure in the outdoors it would have "walked." The yard stick against the wall is for scale!I looked at Gil's thesis a bit last night. It looks like he has moved this and a few other Neomarica to a yet unnamed genus based on DNA studies. He has also says fluminensis is the same as sabini.RodFrom: Chuck Chapman <irischapman@aim.com> To: iris-species@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [iris-species] Neomarica eximia Thanks for photo.I'd love to see photo of plant and a closeup of flower showing anther.Chuck Chapman-----Original Message-----From: Rodney Barton <rbartontx@yahoo.com>To: Iris Species <iris-species@yahoogroups.com>Sent: Mon, Apr 14, 2014 1:17 pmSubject: [iris-species] Neomarica eximia [1 Attachment] Neomarica eximia blooming today! I had to stand in a chair. The stalk is almost 5' tall.RodneyIN Texas where we're finally getting all those stalks we were wishing for AIS and now there is a freeze warning tonight! :( |
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