Re: spec-x with Chinenses series species?

 

I'd recommend trying the louisianas, siberians and tridentata. Then again, I can't even get koreana to self. It sets pods which abort after a few days. Perhaps it's self-incompatible, which seems unusual for beardless.

Sean Z
Zone 6a
SE Michigan

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Dennis Kramb d*@badbear.com [iris-species] <i*@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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I'm growing a few dwarf Chineses species:Â odaesanensis, koreana, henryi, and sp. novum.

I. koreana produces the most flowers, but being the earliest to bloom I've never really tried crossing it with anything. In my freezer I have only a little bit of pollen from last year: TBs, fulva, brevicaulis, SIBs, and maaaybe foetidissima & tridentata.

If anyone down south has any pollen they want me to try putting on koreana, let me know! especially tectorum. Meanwhile I'll save up koreana pollen to try on other things.

Dennis in Cincinnati


On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:24 AM, David Ferguson m*@msn.com [iris-species] <i*@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


I'm just guessing here, by what seems most closelyÂrelated to what. And what I think is related to what may sometimes be a bit unconventional by traditional standards [this all does seem to jive fairly well with recent molecular studies though].
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I kind'a suspect that I.Âspeculatrix is actually aÂSpuria, andÂnot closely related to others inÂseriesÂChinenses at all. I'll bet it will cross with other Spurias or perhaps I. foetidissima much more easily that with anything else. I suspect it will not cross with other Chinenses, but it never hurts to try.
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A shot in the dark here, but I think the series Chinenses (minus I. speculatrix) are likely most closely related to I. gracilipes, tenuis, and missouriensis, and these might make good candidates for crossing. Perhaps I. cristata and lacustris are related too, but that may be a stretch. These all seem to be "primitive" beardless Irises, but not related to other crested Iris at all. IÂexpect that any attempts to cross Chinenses members with any other crested Iris will be unlikely to give any offspring (???). As far as Chinenses with Chinenses - seems like it aught to work, if they really are related to one-another (??)
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I'm wondering if anyone has tried a crested Iris with a Pardanthus or Belamcanda? It would seem they are perhaps moderately closely related (except for I. cristata and I. lacustris, which are apparently not related to any of them).
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Dave Ferguson
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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 19:41:58 -0400
Subject: [iris-species] spec-x with Chinenses series species?


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Are there any known hybrids within the Chinenses series? Or any wider hybrids involving a Chinenses series species?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iris_series_Chinenses

I've got I. koreana in bloom and wondering if it might cross with tectorum or cristata or something. Unfortunately I don't have pollen from those so I'm going to try 'Satan's Mistress' pollen. :-)

Dennis in Cincinnati






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