Yes I would. With any plant I would need to know it's collection
site, as near as possible. If I have a number of different localities
a mini phylogeny could be constructed and it then be possible to see
if Ont brevicaulis is a relic , at root or a branch off the main
population. It would provide interesting data when all put together.
Data on a number of brevicaulis clones are already in gene back, and
can be accessed.
Chuck Chapman
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I have what I believe is a brevicaulis from Texas that I could
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 That would be great. Do you have the means to
get it here? Seeds may work better.What are the possibilities of
samples of the Ohio plant? A phylogenetic tree of brevicaulis would
be neat. It would defiantly be able to show migration route, and
genetic drift.Chuck Chapman-----Original Message----- From: 'Patrick
O'Connor' pfoconnor@cox.net [iris-species]
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pmSubject: RE: [iris-species] Re:Iris brevicaulis Ontario ÂChuck,ÂI can
certainly send you I. brevicaulis from Louisiana.ÂPatrickÂFrom:
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groups.comSubject: RE: [iris-species] Re:Iris brevicaulis OntarioÂÂ I'm
hoping to be able to get a sample and do a genetic comparison witha
brevicaulis from Lousiana. Should prove to be interesting. I'm suretime
separation from Louisiana brevicaulis will have produceddifferences. So
different enough to be a new species?Colour and form same as a number
of colour variations of versicolor,but signal bristles much larger.
Haven't located a picture offlowering stem yet. It may still prove to
be some sort of hybrid.Hoping tolocate herbarium sampleChuck
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2015 7:34 amSubject: RE: [iris-species] Re:Iris brevicaulis OntarioÂThe
color of this Ontario brevicaulis is interesting. It seems to havemuch
more red in it than brevicaulis I have seen from the South, whichare
almost all in the blue and lavender range. There was a
possiblebrevicaulis documented in Northen Ohio that seems to have that
samecolor
trait.Âhttp://www.ohionatureblog.com/2009/06/its-always-nice-to-find-what
-youre.html Perhaps it is a regional variation, and perhaps there
has been somepast introgression with I. fulva.ÂPatrickÂ
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brevicaulis Ontario [1 Attachment]ÂÂ Being doing some research. Found
original article. It was inUniversity's archives , so will be a few
days for them to dig it out.Here is a photo courtesy of P. Allen
Woodliffe, who was involved inMinistry of Natural Resources. Apparently
there were originally about10 populations, but may only be two left in
conservation areas. R estreplaced by development. Located on Pele
Island, south of Point Pelein Ontario. This is the most southerly part
of Ontario, same latitudeas North California.Close up of flower does
show the signal bristles. But I also saw someon by blowups of I
versicolour, but quite a bit sma ller. Currently nophotos of stem.
Still tracking down a herbarium specimen.I just may be able to get a
plant. I'll be working on it. The geneticsof this plant will have an
interesting tale to tell. If a truebrevicalus, it may be part of a
relic population with information onmigration route of the Louisiana
iris..Allen gave permission for his photos to be posted on SIGNA, if
thereis an interest.Chuck Chapman
