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Re: Seed Exchange


Hi Diane,
        It'd be great to get a discussion of germination going. 
        I haven't succeeded with gracillipes either, although I think I only tried it once.  Presumably it's double dormant like cristata--have you kept the pot through two winters?
        I have tried koreana and all the other chinenses seeds I can get my hands on, and have not gotten any to germinate.  I'm pretty sure at this point that the default method of stratifying over winter and waiting for germination in spring does not work.  I have had pots of stratifying seed for at least two years with no luck.  My current thinking is that maybe these are cool germinators, like the PCN's are.  I've got an unused bedroom which gets down to 40-50 F in mid-winter, and will try some seeds in there.  Here in upstate NY (Zone 5) we go from winter to summer too fast for an extended period at those temps outside.
         Versicolors I have always found to be dead easy; I just sow the seed in soilless mix, leave them outside over winter, and they germinate when the weather warms up in spring.  Maybe you just got a bum seed lot, or maybe it's not cold enough there.  You could try refrigerating the seeds to stratify.
        I have not tried wattii, but I tried some of the japonica that was in the exchange a couple of years ago, Darrel Probst's donation.  I tried the directions he gave in the seed germination issue of the SIGNA bulletin (#53, fall '94).  No luck.  I have a couple of cristatas obtained as plants, and will try to germinate any seeds I get from them.

        A couple of things I have had some luck with, which are supposed to be difficult, are sintenissii and graminea.  Someone on this list once mentioned that he had graminea germinating in the pot the mother plant was grown in.  This suggested to me that the seeds were being sown as soon as they ripened, and spurias in general are supposed to benefit from using fresh seed.  I have also gotten a small percentage of germination from dry seed; in both cases, the seeds germinated for me in the fall after stratification.
        Ken Walkup

At 12:48 PM 12/27/2006, you wrote:

I have marked something on each page, but now come the second thoughts.  I have 33 lots of SIGNA seed from 2001 to 2005, that haven't germinated yet.  Most of them are from 2004.  Some species have germinated from some seedlots.

But what about the ones that have never germinated for me?  Do I try them again or give up?  Here's the list.

  gracilipes,  koreana,  versicolor,  wattii


Diane Whitehead
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
maritime zone 8, cool Mediterranean climate
mild rainy winters, mild dry summers



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