I understand what you are saying now. Thank you. Yes, I think that is exactly what happened.
I'm not upset over an error. I make them as much as anyone. I was just really confused at the same plant from the two different sources, but, yes, I think vendor B and C both probably got them from vendor A.
The reason I never mentioned what vendors they came from is that both are excellent growers, excellent, and would never knowingly send out a mis named plant. I hope to make the list of those excellent vendors someday.
As you already have, Chuck. Thank you so much for your help.
--- In i*@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Chapman <irischapman@...> wrote:
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> What I'm suggesting is that in one or more gardens, along the supply route from oriiginal seed that produced Gerald Darby, to the plant(s) in your garden, that there was one or more "accidents" . If seller A sold an error to gardens B and C and you purchased from both B and C . then you would get same "error" plant
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> These sorts of beardless plants can easily drop seed into or close by and thus cause erors.
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> There are many other types of erors that can and do crop up in plant nursaries. Errors crop up in my garden, and in most other gardens as well. I have gotten in incorrect plants from many differeret gardens, small and large. So these things do happen. And as you have noticed, it is often more of a problem with many of species and species crosses which are less familiar to many people.
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> I'm glad you are checking ID of your plants carefully
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> Chuck Chapman
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Polly pollykinsman@...
> To: i*@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, Dec 14, 2010 9:35 am
> Subject: [iris-species] Re: 'Gerald Darby': Seeds, Descriptions, Nomenclature
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> Â Not sure I understand what you're asking, Chuck. They came directly from two sources, and were placed in nursery rows. I have not grown them in my personal gardens, if that's what you're asking. I purchased one plant from each of two sources, and got a bonus one from one of the sources, and all three went directly in the nursery bed. And they came at separate times and were in separate rows.
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> So, no, I don't know if they might have been mixed up at the sources I obtained them from, but both the same, unlikely it would seem. Plus considering the sources, unlikely they would be mixed up anyway.
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> --- In i*@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Chapman irischapman@ wrote:
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> > And how about in garden where you got plants?
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> > These plants quickly form large clumps, andÃ? I always find some flower stalks hidden under foliage.Ã?Â
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> > I've had to trash some clumps of pseudacorous� because of this problem. that is seedlings growning up and contaminating cultivar clumps.
> >
> > Chuck Chapman
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Polly pollykinsman@
> > To: i*@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Mon, Dec 13, 2010 9:50 pm
> > Subject: [iris-species] Re: 'Gerald Darby': Seeds, Descriptions, Nomenclature
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> > � Just so you know, that's not what happened here. I had three clumps, planted them in sales rows, catalogued them, put tags directly in front of and under them, took pictures of the rows, and deadheaded religiously. Plus I straw mulched around the plants, and I would be able to tell if it was seedlings or not from the way they were mulched. Anyway, not seedlings.
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> > I bet your pond is beautiful, Dennis!
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> > --- In i*@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Kramb dkramb@ wrote:
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> > > You should see my pond. It's not so big... but it's big enough that I can't
> > > (won't) reach most of the irises. And you're absolutely right, they reseed
> > > like crazy. I gave up hope long ago of identifying who was who. The
> > > naughty Louisianas jumped their pots and grew where ever they wanted. The
> > > only one I know for sure is the variegated Japanese iris Silverband. Of
> > > course, when they bloom I can tell you what's what. But that's only for a
> > > few weeks a year.
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> > > I'm a very irresponsible iris grower. ;-)
> > >
> > > Dennis in Cincinnati where the pond is frozen solid.
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> > > On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Joan Cooper joan78@ wrote:
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> > > > I think one of the reasons for this confusion (Gerald Darby and others) is
> > > > that many, especially beardless iris, self sow and the seedlings get mixed
> > > > with the original and so are never properly identified again. We should be
> > > > very careful to deadhead those stalks so they won't be responsible for the
> > > > problem. Joan Cooper Minnesota
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