Re: SPEC-X


 

Actually AIS judges are expected to grow most of the irises they vote for. Or at the very least see them growing in gardens they frequent over a two year period. Judge are also asked not to vote for classifications they do not grow and or cultivars they have not grown or seen in person for more than two years. There are some judges that do not understand their duties and vote for everything they can. But if you look at the number of judges and the number of votes casts, the quantity of votes indicates that most judges follow these rules.

 

There has been a great deal of discussion as to whether to have two types of judges, ones that can judge shows and one who garden judge. of course some could be both. There is a shortage of qualified judges for shows. Some concern has been expressed that this could dilute the quality of judges doing shows. a few years ago there was an attempt to change the title of Master judge to Senior judge since presently the only requirement to be a master is to have judged for 15 years. There was a huge cry and that did not go over.

 

To improve the quality of judges I have been thinking of another possibility. The Master Gardener program has been extraordinarily successful. The pride of being a MASTER gardener seems to be the driving force. This is achieved with a reasonably high standard of training and required donated work. I believe each section could learn from this and do something that was done years ago by the Dwarf Iris Society. They used to certify judges as competent to judge their group. I think this could work today as a honorary title that an existing judge could receive, being certified in one or more groups because they have worked on growing plants in that group and studied books on the subject..


From: "Chuck Chapman" <irischapman@aim.com>
To: iris-species@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 6:14:25 PM
Subject: Re: [iris-species] SPEC-X

 

One rule change for judges that may help out the class.

"Any judge voting for a cultivar in any class should be growing at
least two plants in that class."

This would deal with widely distributed cultivars that are pushing
at boundaries of the class. And that get a vote even if grower
doesn't have any other representatives of class and probably have no
real understanding of the class.

Chuck Chapman

-----Original Message-----
From: ChatOWhitehall <ChatOWhitehall@aol.com>
To: iris-species <iris-species@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Jan 24, 2014 5:11 pm
Subject: Re: [iris-species] SPEC-X

 
 So, how would you define the class, Chuck?
 
AMW

-----Original Message-----
From: irischapman <irischapman@aim.com>
To: iris-species <iris-species@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Jan 24, 2014 5:03 pm
Subject: Re: [iris-species] SPEC-X

  The problem I have ! is where iris are placed
in this class, that could very well compete in another class. There
have been a number of occasions where second or third generation plants
that easily meet criteria for another class are placed in Spec-x. Then
what happens is that they beat out stuff that are truly worthy of an
award that are new innovations, and which meet spirit of the class.
Partly on basis of wide distribution, and perhaps being grown by judges
that grow no other Spec-x plants.Chuck Chapman




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