-----Original Message-----
From: William Plotner <g*@molalla.net>
To: iris-species <i*@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, May 11, 2012 12:11 pm
Subject: Re: [iris-species] I. dalmatica
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I. pallada 'Dalmatica' is a collected form of I. pallada that was
collected in 1600. It is more vigorous than the typical I. pallada and
the flower stems are somewhat taller than the norm. with 6, 8 and
sometimes more buds per stalk and is very nicely branched. It won an
Award of Merit in 1917.
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Will
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From: C*@aol.com
To: i*@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [iris-species] I. dalmatica
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John,
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In what context does this binomial as you are referencing it appear? Or,
in other words, may we know whyÂyou need this image, please?
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Typically, "dalmatica" is or has historically been associated with
various forms of Iris pallida. I have not, myself, with my admittedly
limited frame of reference, ever run into a reference to I. dalmatica
that did not seem to be referring toÂI pallida.Â
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IÂam currently assembling research for a projuectedÂpaper on the
literary history of the name "Dalmatica" or "Pallida Dalmatica" or
"Dalmatian Iris" etc etc. I believe a good deal of patent nonsense has
been written about these taxa and the horticultural history of the
species generally.
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The last word I had on the wholeÂPallida Dalmatica thing from Phil
Edinger was he had grown a passel of rhizomes from various sources over
the years and they were all different while all appearing to be pure
pallida. He says there ain't no one 'Dalmatica.'
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If you need an image clearly identified as Pallida Dalmatica which is
roughly contemporary with the emergence of the AIS Check Lists,
published by someone who was in a position to know more or less what
was what at that time, and one whichÂshows, and indeed remarks upon,
theÂthe lilting falls which have become anecdotally associated with
the name,ÂI have that thing.
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Do contact me privately if I can help you.
Â
AnnerÂ
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-----Original Message-----
From: John Jones <j*@usjoneses.com>
To: iris-species <i*@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, May 11, 2012 11:29 am
Subject: Re: [iris-species] I. dalmatica
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Anyone happen to have a picture of I. dalmatica?
Thanks
John
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American Iris Society
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Not a collected form. Identified in a garden
All current evidence indicates that it is a garden clone and perhaps a
hybrid.
Chuck Chapman
