RE: RE: SPEC-X rebloomer

 

How many years have you been monitoring it, Chuck?
 
In my cold zone, I appreciate everbloomers more than rebloomers.  Chuck and most of you know the only reliable rebloomers I have are Chuck's intros.
 
You'd think I'd get more bee pods than I do, but they often rot off or get stolen by some creatures.  This year, I actually managed to collect 21, so we'll see if anything actually comes of it.  A few of them are from species iris, which is why I noted them specifically.
 
El
 

To: iris-species@yahoogroups.com
From: irischapman@aim.com
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:48:15 -0500
Subject: [iris-species] RE: SPEC-X rebloomer

 
I'm calling this seedling a Spec-X as it is a cross between Forever Blue  (SDB) and a species aphylla.  A bee pod, but aphylla  nature of pollen parent is rather obvious. In addition to branching and apearance, is the fact that foliage goes dormant like aphylla  in fall. A number of aphylla species were in next row to Forever Blue. If I  had to guess, it would be aphylla Hungary for first choice.

Flower stalks  between 12-18" and flower count of 8-12 per stalk.  Reblooms all summer long. Each stalk blooms for nearly four weeks.  Stalks in clump  are sequential, so thus lomg bloom time.  Pretty much an everbloomer based on how it performs.

It apears to be sterile. Likely because of an imbalanced 8/12/12/12  chromosome set. Will try differrent  types of parents to see if any seeds can be set. But no bee pods, which is a bad sign with  something of this size with so many flowers.

Chuck Chapman


-----Original Message-----
From: El Hutchison <eleanore@mymts.net>
To: iris-species@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 12:25 pm
Subject: RE: [iris-species] SPEC-X

 
Chuck, can you send us a couple of pictures, please.
 
Dennis, I humbly submit that you're not just an ordinary gardener.  :)
 
El
 
To: i*@yahoogroups.com
From: d*@badbear.com
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 11:53:37 -0500
Subject: Re: [iris-species] SPEC-X

 
nope.  i'm not a judge.  i'm just a gardener.  i've never understood (nor cared enough to learn) the rules of classifying bearded irises.  so such dilemmas just seem silly to me.  (if it is 1 inch too short or if the flower is too large, or whatever)

and if indeed the rules are so strict that they hinder development of wonderful seedlings like the one you described, then i have even less interest in those rules than before!

sorry... it's far from an intelligent or helpful answer.  but all i can do is reiterate my viewpoint that as a gardener, to me, i would not be able to see a big difference between your hybrid and another SDB or IB.  and so i struggle to accept it as a SPEC-X.

i suppose that's what happens when non-show people like me are utilizing show terminology.  so i guess i've learned a lesson from today's conversation.  that if i don't care enough to learn about bearded classifications, then maybe i sh ouldn't be so opinionated about the SPEC-X category either (even though it's totally my favorite).  i humbly apologize.  :-)

Dennis in Cincinnati



On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Chuck Chapman <i*@aim.com> wrote:

I have a seedling, that is a cross of an SDB  x  aphylla.
As SDB it is often too tall, as IB is often too short
Any suggestions as to how to classify it, if not Spec-X

Chuck Chapman



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