Re: SPEC-X
- Subject: Re: SPEC-X
- From: C* C* <i*@aim.com>
- Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 14:35:03 -0500
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The definition of the class may need a bit of work. Here is the registration data for Dolce
DOLCE
(Paul Black, R. 2002) Sdlg. I290C. SPEC-X, 34" (86 cm), EMS. and style arms pastel pink; F. pinkish ivory, narrow pale pink band; beards medium tangerine; small-flowered; slight spicy fragrance. F175BB: (Northern Jewel x 91196A: (8864B: ((Navy Waves x Bride's Halo) x sib) x C. Palmer aphylla sdlg.)) X B194C: (Abridged Version x 91135D: ((Centerfold x Wings of Dreams) x Birthday Gift)). Mid-America 2003. HM 2005, AM 2007, Ran-P 2009. In this cross you have aphylla as a grandparent, and even then it is a selected seedling. So great grandchild of a species. I would think there is some argument for excluding this sort of cultivar from SPEC-X. Perhaps next revision of AIS rules will adress this concern. But the people voting this class did have their say. But there is the possibility that the people voting only class only had this example od SPEC-X in their garden Perhaps Judges voting for a class should have enough experience, growing and viewing, so when they vote for best of class, are choosing between at least two elegiable cultivars. Not voting for the only one they are familar with. This should be for all top awards, as far as I'm concerned Chuyck Chapman From: Sean A. Zera <zera@umich.edu> To: iris-species <iris-species@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wed, Nov 24, 2010 2:59 pm Subject: RE: [iris-species] Re: SPEC-X I, too, have never paid much attention to AIS because of the apparent
focus on bearded hybrids, but after a bit of reading up, the whole system seems pretty strange. Correct me if I'm wrong, but: There are 15 classifications that receive medals, plus the Dykes medal. Of these, eight are restricted to beardeds and another two allow beardeds, so fully 2/3 of the categories can be won by beardeds. Three medals are awarded in the TB category, so of the 18 medals awarded annually, 3/4 can and do go to beardeds. The highest award, the Dykes, though open to all classes, is in practice awarded only to beardeds and almost exclusively to Tall Beardeds, which is downright insulting to everyone else, unless I'm missing something here. Certain arilbred hybrids could potentially be entered as TB, AB or SPEC-X, and stand a chance to win the Dykes, while hybrids in entire other subgenera can only be entered in SPEC-X and will never win Dykes. The SPEC-X classification is the only one open to anyone hybridizing Chinensis, Ensatae, Foetidissimae, Laevigatae (except JI), Longipetalae, Nepalensis, Prismaticae, Ruthenicae, Syriacae, Tenuifoliae, Tripetalae, Unguiculares, Vernae, cresteds, reticulatas, xiphiums, junos, Belamcanda, Pardanthopsis, wide crosses and whatever else I've missed. Yet 'Dolce', which for all intents and purposes appears to be a TB, wins. I understand the overwhelming focus of AIS on beardeds as an artifact of the history of iris hybridizing, but it would seem that the organization has little interest in changing this. My take on SPEC-X, as the classes stand now, would be to voluntarily restrict it to wide crosses (except between two bearded groups) and beardless hybrids that don't fit an existing classification. Wild-type bearded hybrids, as unlikely as they appear to be to win existing bearded classes, at least qualify for them. Entering beardeds into the only category many beardless can enter, being judged by an organization that prefers beardeds, unfairly reduces the already limited chances of a new and different hybrid winning. Sean Z Michigan |
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