Re: [Re: HYB: Yellow Plicatas? (was Mystery Irises) ]
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- Date: 16 Apr 00 16:27:25 PDT
"Jeff and Carolyn Walters" <jcwalters@bridgernet.com> wrote:
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> << Most cultivars with this type of color pattern, such as JOYCE TERRY,
> FRINGE OF GOLD, and FIRST INTERSTATE are not plicatas. >>
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> In the beginning, I didn't think of these as plicatas. Still don't for
that
> matter. However, another hybridizer, with much more experience than I,
said
> they were!? Another "truth" disputed. What class are the yellow/white
> plicata appearing iris? Also the ringed orange/pink?
Betty,
I don't know that there is a specific term, like "plicata", "glaciata", or
"amoena", for the color pattern in question, i.e., carotenoid pigment
(yellow-orange-pink) in the standards and forming a smooth band or rim
around the white-centered falls.
The descriptions of some of them are as follows:
JOYCE TERRY - S. yellow; F. white, edged yellow.
FRINGE OF GOLD - S. deep canary yellow; F. white, rich golden tones
radiating from beard qnd hafts into 1/4" rim.
LIGHT BEAM - S. solid lemon; F. white ground stitched bright lemon.
FIRST INTERSTATE - Brilliant yellow standards, hafts and fall rims; white
falls.
> and are the pink
> ground, purple marked irises not plicatas either?
Pink ground irises with purplish plicata markings, such as RANCHO ROSE, are
true plicatas. I was only questioning the "plicata" designation of irises
in which there was no anthocyanin pigment in the markings as well as the
ground color.
Jeff Walters in northern Utah (USDA Zone 4/5, Sunset Zone 2)
jcwalters@bridgernet.com
I have to agree that the ringed or halo types such as Joyce Terry are not
plicatas. The closest is usually brown on yellow ground. I have a yellow on
white IB seedling that is the closest to it that I have seen but suspect that
this has the hint of anthocyanin pigment underneath to give this pattern. The
dark purple on pink is the same as brown or red on yellow except that the
yellow is replaced with pink. I looked to see if I had a photo of my IB
seedling to send but don't have one that is digitized. I have seen the yellow
haloed iris described as plicata but when you look as the parentage you can
see that they lack some authencity. To add to the confusion is the broken
colour types that have yellow streaks. The BCs are plicata based and BC seems
to affect the yellow at times. I have had a BC streaked iris throw a regular
plicata as a sport, confirming the plicata conection.
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