Re: HIST: CAT: Reliable Sources of Historic Irises


I'm wondering from the description if the term 'self' isn't being 
used to mean 'base color' or in some other way than the way we 
usually think of it.  Otherwise, a violet self would have to have 
violet falls wouldn't it?

RosalieAnn in southern MD, Chesapeake Bay/Potomac River area, USA


--- In iris-talk@egroups.com, hipsource@a... wrote:
> Regarding the question of whether these descriptions could 
conceivably be 
> correct:
> 
> <<2 'WABASH', 1 had violet self with violet falls, second had pale 
blue self, 
> violet falls with wrong shape, pale yellow beard.>>
> 
> There is a photo of WABASH on the HIPS page at 
> http://www.worldiris.com/public_html/Frame_pages/QFix.html.
> It is a purple amoena, that is it has white standards and 
blue/violet falls 
> with some haft veination. Yellow beard, darker in throat. 
> 
> I have not heard of WABASH blooming as a self of any color due to 
climatic or 
> local growing conditions.  
> 
> <<1 'MOMENTUM' self and falls may be correct, but beard is white 
should be 
> violet.>>
> 
> MOMENTUM (Dunn, 1986) is described in the 1989 Check List as a 
white ground 
> plicata stitched shades of blue. Beard is described as violet. Note 
that 
> beard color for registration purposes is the color of the beard in 
the throat 
> of the flower.
> 
> Anner Whitehead
> Commercial Source Chairman
> Historic Iris Preservation Society,AIS
> HIPSource@a...


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