Re: Re: REB: blades/fan/stalk formation

Linda, do you remember when I make a claim for pampering irises while they carried bloom stalks?? This period right after spring bloom seems to be the most crucial?in many ways, while being the most vulnerable!? It provides regeneration?in many forms.? 

While many view this as a time of rest for the gardener, it is a time of extreme?importance for the plant.? The future of the plant literally depends on what happens to the plant during this 6-8 weeks.? After this point, it's performance depends on growth and survival.? 




<<I thought bud set for oncers was thought to occur shortly after spring bloom, before summer "dormancy"? Dormancy of the bud for next year's stalk, that is, whether or not the rest of the plant stops growing. If I'm remembering that right, why couldn't bud set for spring bloom in rebloomers occur immediately after spring bloom the preceeding year and the same for fall bloom??>>
Betty/zone 6/KY/Bridge In Time
Happiness is a journey, not a destination.? 


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From: Linda Mann <lmann@lock-net.com>
To: iris@hort.net
Sent: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 6:44 am
Subject: [iris] Re: REB: blades/fan/stalk formation


Oops, I thought you'd already done some of this before, Chuck. Maybe together, we can all figure out what makes sense to observe as the season progresses.?
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<I havn't done this either. I would think that fresh and dead leaves make the total. In large clumps it will be more difficult.>?
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The seedlings I was referring to are "mature" seedlings - been in pots for two falls plus a year in the ground. One has 10 connected fans, grandmother, mother and children, the other has 5, including fans with stalks. If we count any of last year - between the freeze and drought and heat and serious neglect for one of them... Not maiden bloom.?
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Lower number of leaves might just mean it was prone to bloom out.?
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<I wouldn't use seedling bloom as a true indicator, but would think that the lower the number of leaves for initial bloom, the more likely it will be a rebloomer. I have also found that first year bloom in fall doesn't mean it is a rebloomer. It means something, but I don't know what.>?
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Sort of <g>?
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<I suspect that ....I hope this all makes some sort of sense.>?
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I thought bud set for oncers was thought to occur shortly after spring bloom, before summer "dormancy"? Dormancy of the bud for next year's stalk, that is, whether or not the rest of the plant stops growing. If I'm remembering that right, why couldn't bud set for spring bloom in rebloomers occur immediately after spring bloom the preceeding year and the same for fall bloom??
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<Bud set is in the late summer. I'm not sure what the trigger for this is, but plants go into winter with bud already set, waiting forwhat ever triggers it needs , such as vernalization .>?
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