Re: speaking out about AIS matters
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  • Subject: Re: speaking out about AIS matters
  • From: J* K* <k*@swbell.net>
  • Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 17:55:12 -0700 (PDT)
Here's some interesting information. 

This year there were 545 accredited
judges eligible to vote the ballot. 34 
judges did not vote.

110 eligible
judges live in either California or Oregon, which means that 435 
judges live
elsewhere in the country

Of those 435 eligible judges, 119 live in the
midwest, 74 in the northeast, and 
158 in the south and southeastern states.
There are 16 judges who live 
overseas.  The remaining 68 judges live in Utah,
Colorado, Montana, Idaho, or 
New Mexico.

Just some food for thought.
Eugene
Baxley Wrote;

Concerning the votes for the Wister Medal and the Dykes Medal,
I believe the 
voting should be changed to require that an iris gets a
plurality of votes in 
two thirds of the AIS regions to receive either award.
This would prevent large 
regions, California etc, from dominating the
selection of Wister and Dykes 
candidates because they have more votes than
any other region.


I will pass this messages on to AIS Discuss ( covers all
board members, chairs 
and RVPSs);

I do not know if this is the solution, but
I think it is an interesting 
possibility. I totally agree that Irises do not
perform well everywhere. I would 
love to do a scientific study on this but
frankly it is very hard to get the 
cooperation and input to do so. I would
love to see, at least at present, a 
breakdown of the number of judges within
climactic regions, showing their votes. 


Sadly we think of AIS as somewhat
impressive but in reality there are only I 
believe about 700 judges and they
are concentrated in various parts of the 
country. We desperately need more
members and more judges to have any statistic 
that is meaningful. 


I
believe there are relatively few judges that get to see even 10% of the irises
on the ballot and the supposed requirements of being a good judge are
constantly 
violated. It is only a few people that can possible fulfill seeing
even 20% of 
the irises on the ballot over 2 years and even growing most. We
need desperately 
to improve this system.


----- Original Message -----
To
Robert Pries:

Just where does one speak out about dissatisfaction with
the
AIS? You can get on IRIS TALK and talk your head off. No results. You can
write letters to the President. No results and no answer. There should be a
place to complain and get an answer from someone instead of being ignored. We
are controlled by the members who attend the National meetings. That seems to
be between sixty and one hundred people.

Concerning the votes for the Wister
Medal and the Dykes Medal, I believe the voting should be changed to require
that an iris gets a plurality of votes in two thirds of the AIS regions to
receive either award. This would prevent large regions, California etc, from
dominating the selection of Wister and Dykes candidates because they have more
votes than any other region. 

Frankly, I am fed up with the AIS and the
recent changes in membership (emembership). You can't get a hard copy of the
bulletin unless you are a regular member. You can't have access to the online
check list unless you are an emember. So, if you want both a hard copy and
access to the online check list, you must have dual membership. I think that
in December when both membeships expire I shall become a NON MEMBER. I can get
along very well without the AIS. I can register seedlings even if I am not a
member. 

For years the AIS let foreign hybridizers register their seedlings
free. Barry Blyth registered about 1300 iris free. The word finally got out
that the AIS was doing this while whining about budget deficits so it hit the
fan. And the AIS had to start charging foreign hybridizers the same as they do
us. 

If every person in the world had the same brand computer system and
they
all  worked the same, emembership might be made to work. Now, on my
computer,
the online bulletin access is a mess. I can barely read the bulletin
because
it has such small print and i you enlarge the print the picture of the
bulletin gets St. Vitas Dance. 

E. Baxley
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Sent: Sat, August 18, 2012
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