Re: speaking out about AIS matters
iris@hort.net
  • Subject: Re: speaking out about AIS matters
  • From: J* K* <k*@swbell.net>
  • Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 16:00:19 -0700 (PDT)
There are 16 accredited judges in Canada.




________________________________
From: Robert Pries <robertpries@embarqmail.com>
To: iris@hort.net
Sent: Sun, August 19, 2012 4:12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [iris] speaking out about AIS matters

Let me share a neat trick that can answer lots of questions. If you check the 
Iris Encyclopedia General Topics Index you can find lots of things like a list 
of all judges. See http://wiki.irises.org/bin/view/Main/IrisInfo
Hope this helps in finding answers.

----- Original Message -----
How many AIS judges up here in Canada, Judy?

El, Ste Anne, Manitoba, Canada


> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 17:55:12 -0700
> From: keisling@swbell.net
> Subject: Re: [iris] speaking out about AIS matters
> To: iris@hort.net
>
> Here's some interesting information.
>
> This year there were 545 accredited
> judges eligible to vote the ballot. 34
> judges did not vote.
>
> 110 eligible
> judges live in either California or Oregon, which means that 435
> judges live
> elsewhere in the country
>
> Of those 435 eligible judges, 119 live in the
> midwest, 74 in the northeast, and
> 158 in the south and southeastern states.
> There are 16 judges who live
> overseas. The remaining 68 judges live in Utah,
> Colorado, Montana, Idaho, or
> New Mexico.
>
> Just some food for thought.
> Eugene
> Baxley Wrote;
>
> Concerning the votes for the Wister Medal and the Dykes Medal,
> I believe the
> voting should be changed to require that an iris gets a
> plurality of votes in
> two thirds of the AIS regions to receive either award.
> This would prevent large
> regions, California etc, from dominating the
> selection of Wister and Dykes
> candidates because they have more votes than
> any other region.
>
>
> I will pass this messages on to AIS Discuss ( covers all
> board members, chairs
> and RVPSs);
>
> I do not know if this is the solution, but
> I think it is an interesting
> possibility. I totally agree that Irises do not
> perform well everywhere. I would
> love to do a scientific study on this but
> frankly it is very hard to get the
> cooperation and input to do so. I would
> love to see, at least at present, a
> breakdown of the number of judges within
> climactic regions, showing their votes.
>
>
> Sadly we think of AIS as somewhat
> impressive but in reality there are only I
> believe about 700 judges and they
> are concentrated in various parts of the
> country. We desperately need more
> members and more judges to have any statistic
> that is meaningful.
>
>
> I
> believe there are relatively few judges that get to see even 10% of the
irises
> on the ballot and the supposed requirements of being a good judge are
> constantly
> violated. It is only a few people that can possible fulfill seeing
> even 20% of
> the irises on the ballot over 2 years and even growing most. We
> need desperately
> to improve this system.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> To
> Robert Pries:
>
> Just where does one speak out about dissatisfaction with
> the
> AIS? You can get on IRIS TALK and talk your head off. No results. You can
> write letters to the President. No results and no answer. There should be a
> place to complain and get an answer from someone instead of being ignored.
We
> are controlled by the members who attend the National meetings. That seems
to
> be between sixty and one hundred people.
>
> Concerning the votes for the Wister
> Medal and the Dykes Medal, I believe the voting should be changed to
require
> that an iris gets a plurality of votes in two thirds of the AIS regions to
> receive either award. This would prevent large regions, California etc,
from
> dominating the selection of Wister and Dykes candidates because they have
more
> votes than any other region.
>
> Frankly, I am fed up with the AIS and the
> recent changes in membership (emembership). You can't get a hard copy of
the
> bulletin unless you are a regular member. You can't have access to the
online
> check list unless you are an emember. So, if you want both a hard copy and
> access to the online check list, you must have dual membership. I think
that
> in December when both membeships expire I shall become a NON MEMBER. I can
get
> along very well without the AIS. I can register seedlings even if I am not
a
> member.
>
> For years the AIS let foreign hybridizers register their seedlings
> free. Barry Blyth registered about 1300 iris free. The word finally got out
> that the AIS was doing this while whining about budget deficits so it hit
the
> fan. And the AIS had to start charging foreign hybridizers the same as they
do
> us.
>
> If every person in the world had the same brand computer system and
> they
> all worked the same, emembership might be made to work. Now, on my
> computer,
> the online bulletin access is a mess. I can barely read the bulletin
> because
> it has such small print and i you enlarge the print the picture of the
> bulletin gets St. Vitas Dance.
>
> E. Baxley
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> From: Robert Pries
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> To: iris@hort.net
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