RE: speaking out about AIS matters
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  • Subject: RE: speaking out about AIS matters
  • From: E* H* <e*@mymts.net>
  • Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 08:37:40 -0500
Thanks Judy!  I didn't think I was "overseas".  lol

El


> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 16:00:19 -0700
> From: keisling@swbell.net
> Subject: Re: [iris] speaking out about AIS matters
> To: iris@hort.net
>
> There are 16 accredited judges in Canada.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Robert Pries <robertpries@embarqmail.com>
> To: iris@hort.net
> Sent: Sun, August 19, 2012 4:12:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [iris] speaking out about AIS matters
>
> Let me share a neat trick that can answer lots of questions. If you check
the
> Iris Encyclopedia General Topics Index you can find lots of things like a
list
> of all judges. See http://wiki.irises.org/bin/view/Main/IrisInfo
> Hope this helps in finding answers.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> How many AIS judges up here in Canada, Judy?
>
> El, Ste Anne, Manitoba, Canada
>
>
> > Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 17:55:12 -0700
> > From: keisling@swbell.net
> > Subject: Re: [iris] speaking out about AIS matters
> > To: iris@hort.net
> >
> > Here's some interesting information.
> >
> > This year there were 545 accredited
> > judges eligible to vote the ballot. 34
> > judges did not vote.
> >
> > 110 eligible
> > judges live in either California or Oregon, which means that 435
> > judges live
> > elsewhere in the country
> >
> > Of those 435 eligible judges, 119 live in the
> > midwest, 74 in the northeast, and
> > 158 in the south and southeastern states.
> > There are 16 judges who live
> > overseas. The remaining 68 judges live in Utah,
> > Colorado, Montana, Idaho, or
> > New Mexico.
> >
> > Just some food for thought.
> > Eugene
> > Baxley Wrote;
> >
> > Concerning the votes for the Wister Medal and the Dykes Medal,
> > I believe the
> > voting should be changed to require that an iris gets a
> > plurality of votes in
> > two thirds of the AIS regions to receive either award.
> > This would prevent large
> > regions, California etc, from dominating the
> > selection of Wister and Dykes
> > candidates because they have more votes than
> > any other region.
> >
> >
> > I will pass this messages on to AIS Discuss ( covers all
> > board members, chairs
> > and RVPSs);
> >
> > I do not know if this is the solution, but
> > I think it is an interesting
> > possibility. I totally agree that Irises do not
> > perform well everywhere. I would
> > love to do a scientific study on this but
> > frankly it is very hard to get the
> > cooperation and input to do so. I would
> > love to see, at least at present, a
> > breakdown of the number of judges within
> > climactic regions, showing their votes.
> >
> >
> > Sadly we think of AIS as somewhat
> > impressive but in reality there are only I
> > believe about 700 judges and they
> > are concentrated in various parts of the
> > country. We desperately need more
> > members and more judges to have any statistic
> > that is meaningful.
> >
> >
> > I
> > believe there are relatively few judges that get to see even 10% of the
> irises
> > on the ballot and the supposed requirements of being a good judge are
> > constantly
> > violated. It is only a few people that can possible fulfill seeing
> > even 20% of
> > the irises on the ballot over 2 years and even growing most. We
> > need desperately
> > to improve this system.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > To
> > Robert Pries:
> >
> > Just where does one speak out about dissatisfaction with
> > the
> > AIS? You can get on IRIS TALK and talk your head off. No results. You can
> > write letters to the President. No results and no answer. There should be
a
> > place to complain and get an answer from someone instead of being
ignored.
> We
> > are controlled by the members who attend the National meetings. That
seems
> to
> > be between sixty and one hundred people.
> >
> > Concerning the votes for the Wister
> > Medal and the Dykes Medal, I believe the voting should be changed to
> require
> > that an iris gets a plurality of votes in two thirds of the AIS regions
to
> > receive either award. This would prevent large regions, California etc,
> from
> > dominating the selection of Wister and Dykes candidates because they have
> more
> > votes than any other region.
> >
> > Frankly, I am fed up with the AIS and the
> > recent changes in membership (emembership). You can't get a hard copy of
> the
> > bulletin unless you are a regular member. You can't have access to the
> online
> > check list unless you are an emember. So, if you want both a hard copy
and
> > access to the online check list, you must have dual membership. I think
> that
> > in December when both membeships expire I shall become a NON MEMBER. I
can
> get
> > along very well without the AIS. I can register seedlings even if I am
not
> a
> > member.
> >
> > For years the AIS let foreign hybridizers register their seedlings
> > free. Barry Blyth registered about 1300 iris free. The word finally got
out
> > that the AIS was doing this while whining about budget deficits so it hit
> the
> > fan. And the AIS had to start charging foreign hybridizers the same as
they
> do
> > us.
> >
> > If every person in the world had the same brand computer system and
> > they
> > all worked the same, emembership might be made to work. Now, on my
> > computer,
> > the online bulletin access is a mess. I can barely read the bulletin
> > because
> > it has such small print and i you enlarge the print the picture of the
> > bulletin gets St. Vitas Dance.
> >
> > E. Baxley
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> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: Robert Pries
> > <robertpries@embarqmail.com>
> > To: iris@hort.net
> > Sent: Sat, August 18, 2012
> > 4:22:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [iris] speaking out about AIS matters
> >
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