HYB:foliage & other characteristics
- Subject: [iris]HYB:foliage & other characteristics
- From: A*@aol.com
- Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 08:45:57 EST
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In a message dated 12/20/2005 1:07:17 A.M. Central Standard Time,
pharcher@mindspring.com writes:
<<I would have to aggree with the following statement and I do have a
sensitive
eye for the look of foliage on my breeding stock and seedlings.>>
Paul, I didn't mean to imply that I don't notice foliage, especially when it
is extreme in either direction. It's the first thing I notice in a bed of
seedlings. I walk the beds at all times of the year so I keep track of the
crosses that produce healthy foliage. However, it is not my main criteria.
My lack of knowledge on the purple plicatas is basically because I don't
grow many. Vanishing Act, one of my own, has great foliage, and thus I was a
bit surprised at the "blanket" statement. (Thanks to Arnold for the term)
<< It might simply be the ones you are choosing that grow (or survive) in
your area and that may be a linkage you are seeing. You might research their
parentage and
see how much common ancestry they have, as well as who bred them (i.e
climate)>>
Most of my research takes place before I buy a cultivar but foliage is not
something that is normally discussed. It comes as an unknown. Irises also
sneak into the garden as gifts and bonuses! If they weren't on my 'preferred'
list, they rarely make it into a cross.
Again, this batch of seedlings is an extreme case, which was the reason they
(in total) caught my attention. The person I mentioned was also looking at
this group of seedlings when making the remark I quoted.
Yes, in retrospect there is poor foliage in the linage . . . Blatant.
Although the plicata seedling I used as pollen parent has good foliage there are
those in it's ancestry that do not. Indeed a combination of poor foliage genes
may be responsible. I expect to get many rebloomers from this cross! Maybe
I should kill them all before they bloom???
The other group of seedlings that have overwhelmingly poor foliage leave no
real clues as to cause and effect. In this case the problem is corkscrew
foliage. They are from two seedlings with good foliage and nothing obvious as
poor in the linage. Yet, there they stand as testimony to something! I'd say
only ten or so from ninety have decent/normal foliage. For other reasons
they will be taken another generation. It will be interesting to see if the
foliage persists.
<< LB has had a fair tendency to have narrow foliage (if not shorter as
well) and have found a tendency to pass that on to its offspring.>>
I am truly jealous of anyone that can grow Light Beam! Last winter, it was
one of the first to kick up it's heels and die, (out of a relatively small
group that died.) Beverly Sills is tender here also and might explain my
difficulties.
<<I will note something else about Light Beam since it was mentioned. It
seems
to have a hidden talent of producing border bearded seedlings with smaller
flowers than a "normal" border bearded and generally great plant proportions
all around when it does occur.>>
Maybe I should try Light Beam in my pot culture? True flower proportion in
the border bearded class is hard to achieve. So far, pot culture seems to be
working for About Town & Cafe Bleu!
<<In case you are wondering, or didn't know, Light Beam is a true carotenoid
plicata (yellow dotting and stitching on the standards AND falls) from
Broadway X Beverly Sills, so lots of potential although I've found limited
fertility. It throws all sorts of colors as well, including a reblooming
Zone
5 orange seedling.>>
Thanks for passing along your plicata successes! We don't read enough about
success. Anyone else have some success stories, from the seedling patch,
you'd be willing to share?
Betty W. in South-central KY Zone 6
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