Re: HYB:Research:Building a better rebloomer

you are right!
Gibson girl is everywhere!
still, i think there are (new (rebloomers that are far from plicatas

like Mike Sutton's BOUNCE BACK= (bragadoccio X tropical delight)
i had to get to the 5th generation to find debby rairdon, pink angel and artiste. 
Not much of plicatas in this one!
and among the old ones, what about rippling  waters?
didn't have time to look but i'm sure it' possible to find more iries that have forgotten their plicata ancesters in a very remote geriatric home! 


But what i feel an urge to deal with now is not the plicata but the shape.
This really is starting to weight on my system and i have to let it out!
The problem that seems to bother everybody with the old reb is their shape, and i really wonder why? I think we could keep the long and narrow falls but try to make them stop falling, make them stand horizontal. 
they would look like long winged butterfies in the air
i doubt you remember my blue sdlg DD04-01, but i think this narrow shape is not unpleasant at all, as long as the falls DON'T fall, and these don't! It's a shape i would like much more than what we are getting now, these plump, curly pseudo peonies! that are not flying at all 

With such an aim, we could go back using ALL the good oldies,
without this FASHION DICTAT that irises must now look like cabbages on stalks! 

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Loic TASQUIER
 zone 7 - Nederland
Email : tasquierloic@cs.com
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Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [iris]HYB:Research:Building a better rebloomer



In a message dated 12/6/2006 2:18:37 A.M. Central Standard Time,
tasquierloic@cs.com writes:
<<i know i will sound stupid and i might have missed your point... but why 
do
you want to use Lemon Reflection with a reb that  dropped the plicata gene
instead of using an iris that has no plicata in  the first place?>>

Loic,

Nothing stupid about asking questions.  I've always been taught that  the
only stupid question is the one you don't ask.
The plicata is almost synonymous with rebloom. If you run the name Gibson 
Girl in the register you get 43 hits, with many being  rebloomers.  Dr.
Raymond Smith, Lloyd Zurbrigg, K. Jenkins, Walter Moores, Bernice Miller, and Lloyd 
Austin all used it in their breeding.

Then if you run the children on Memphis Lass, Purple Duet and the  like?
Well, you get the point! Sometimes it just shows up as a white spot around the 
beard.
I am looking for rebloomers of relatively modern form that have no plicata parentage. I can't find many. Maybe the trick is to look for the ones that have 'dropped' the plicata gene? Just another approach to a difficult task. 
I thought it might be easier to  build plicataless rebloomers!  <vbg>

It matters little to me if they've dropped the plicata gene or didn't have
it from the beginning, but I realized that the recent work I did adding LR to the red/yellow plicata line did prove (I think) that LR doesn't pass on the 
plicata gene.  (Another goal)

Lemon Reflection has been good at passing on the rebloom gene,  height and
good branching in my garden. I'd decided to quit using it due to form, but the 
absence of the plicata gene could make a difference.

I really don't have a problem with plicatas any more . . . just don't like
certain colors and patterns! But I would like to isolate the gene out a line 
of rebloomers.  Just thinking out loud in hopes of getting  feedback.


Back to the register.

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