Re: HYB: Iris Class
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  • Subject: Re: HYB: Iris Class
  • From: &* G* C* <j*@cox.net>
  • Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:52:14 -0500
The page that Loic posted is from the 2007 edition of the Judges' Handbook, which represents the latest official AIS standards and guidelines. So, when you intend to register a seedling, the Registrar will be using the 2007 edition as the current standard. Yes, criteria have changed over the years. In Mike's case, it looks like the height rule has changed in his favor. In any case, when we get ready to register a seedling, it's good to be sure that we and the Registrar are singing from the same songbook. That way, we'll make beautiful music together, with no sour notes, on the first go-round. -- Griff
----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Pries" <robertpries@embarqmail.com> 
To: <iris@hort.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: Iris Class
Yes you are both right. Wrap your mind around the fact that in different years the line was drawn lower or higher. That means that the Dwarf(MDB) Iris Checklist contains plant that fell under different rules and likewise the Median(SDBs) Checklist contains Iris in this disputed range also but they will only appear in one of the lists depending on when they were registered and whether the hybridizer changed the registration. Life is never simple especially when man is making the rules. 

----- Original Message -----
From: "loic tasquier" <tasquierloic@cs.com>
To: iris@hort.net
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2009 9:21:36 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: Iris Class

So there are 2 different versions then.

Here is a link to page 111 of my Handbook for Judges and Show Official:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/loic_tasquier/4168550585/sizes/l
where it says 8 inches.

Loic


----- Original Message -----
 From: Mike Greenfield
 To: iris@hort.net
 Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 2:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: Iris Class


 Loic direct quote from the Judges Handbook (25 cm (10 inches) in height)

 Mike G
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "loic tasquier" <tasquierloic@cs.com>
 To: <iris@hort.net>
 Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 2:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: Iris Class


 > Mike, it's not 10 inches, it only 8 inches for MDBs
 >
 > Looc
 >  ----- Original Message -----
 >  From: Mike Greenfield
 >  To: iris@hort.net
 >  Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:29 PM
 >  Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: Iris Class
 >
 >
 >  According to The Judges Handbook it does not qualify as a SDB because
the
 >  bloom is too small and stalk is too short. MDB will not work because
 > bloom
 >  is to late. Thus the seedling is not introducible. A small iris that
 > could
 >  bloom south of the MOB will not be this seedling.
 >
 >  Gruff does 05M1 bloom with the Mobs
 >
 >  Judges Handbook:
 >  Definition: Bearded iris up to 25 cm (10 inches) in height. Stems are
 >  usually unbranched; Flowers are 4 to 7.5 cm (1.6 to 3 inches) wide;
 > earliest
> blooming of all bearded iris and with pure I. pumila usually the first 
 > to
 >  bloom.
 >
 >  Mike Greenfield
 >
 >  ----- Original Message -----
 >  From: "Dave Silverberg" <sil1812@molalla.net>
 >  To: <iris@hort.net>
 >  Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 11:42 AM
 >  Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: Iris Class
 >
 >
 >  > Mike and Loic:
 >  >
 >  > If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck,
 > etc.,
 >  > etc.  If it meets all the criteria set forth in the Judges
 >  > Handbook......... that's all that's necessay.
 >  >
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