Re: SPEC: Iris pumila

Heres is a trivia question and I can't remember the
answer. Schreiner passed around four pumila clones.
Carpathia, Nana, Sulina and ..... what was the fourth.
If I heard the name I am sure my memory would click
in. It was the only one that was used little in
hybridzing and was never registered.

--- Robt R Pries <rpries@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Iris pumila is a plant of the steppes and not really
> an alpine. Alpines grow above the treeline created
> by
> altitude, steppes are short grass prairies usually
> created by restricted rainfall. Although many
> pumilas
> are supposed to only bloom if they recieve a cold
> winter. Ben Hager bred this trait out of his that he
> grew and used for hybridizing. Robert Schreiner
> named
> three of the pumilas that were sent to him,
> 'Carpathia', 'Nana', and 'Sulina'. The earliest
> record
> I have of their introduction was prior to 1951 by
> Rainbow Gardens. They were never registered until
> recently. I have a letter from Bob Schreiner
> somewhere
> in my files from Bob talking about their
> introduction
> but I am not sure I could find it. The Dwarfs in the
> 39 checklist were either Iris lutescens or
> relatively
> infertile collected hybrids between lutescens and
> pumila, example 'Caerulea' & 'Pumila Atroviolacea' I
> don't think the Schreiner pumilas went back as far
> as
> 1928 but I could be wrong certainly the were used
> widely in hybridizing when they became available and
> my guess would have been in the 40's. They were the
> first true pumilas we knew in this country.
> 
> --- ChatOWhitehall@aol.com wrote:
> 
> > In a message dated 2/7/2006 1:40:22 AM Eastern
> > Standard Time,  DWiris@aol.com 
> > writes:
> > 
> > I have  been telling people that it was in the
> early
> > 1930s that Bob Schreiner 
> > got  the seeds, but it may have been the late
> 1920s.
> >  In any event, that is  
> > more than 50 years.  It has been 55 years since
> > Walter Welch  published his 
> > first 
> > descriptive  list of dwarf iris species and 
> > cultivars.
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks, Dorothy. 
> >  
> > When I get out from under some stuff I am working
> on
> > I will poke about in  
> > the files and see if I can turn up that reference
> to
> >  the date--for some reason 
> > I am recalling 1928?--that is sticking in my 
> mind. 
> >  
> > Dave Silverberg was kind enough to respoind to my
> > note and remind me of the  
> > bit in Dave Schreiner's obituary in the Bulletin,
> > BAIS 320/p. 110 as written 
> > by  Keith Keppel which speaks to this point as
> well.
> > Keppel says for  any 
> > 'pumila' name in the 1939 Check List one should
> > substitute the word  'dwarf.'
> >  
> > Tell me something else, please; about how far
> > south-- or hot-- do you think  
> > the pure pumila would do well, under ordinary
> > conditions? Zone  6? It is a 
> > true alpine, isn't it?
> >  
> > Cordially, 
> >  
> > Anner Whitehead
> > Richmond VA USA
> > 
> >
>
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