Re: HYB:Rebloomers
Thanks Mike
My fault!
i prefer in fact, easier to fix...
Loic
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Greenfield
To: iris@hort.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 1:59 AM
Subject: Re: [iris] HYB:Rebloomers
Lioc your link is incomplete.
Should be
http://www.hort.net/lists/highlight.cgi?bits=3&search=candy+walk&URL=iris-p
hotos/dec06/msg00218.html#marker
Drop down a line when doing the "Paste"
Mike G
----- Original Message -----
From: "loic tasquier" <tasquierloic@cs.com>
To: <iris@hort.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [iris] HYB:Rebloomers
> Collen
> here is the link to Candy Walk's picture i've put on iris-photo on 28 Dec
> 2006
>
>
http://www.hort.net/lists/highlight.cgi?bits=3&search=candy+walk&URL=iris-pho
> tos/dec06/msg00218.html#marker
>
> i guess we are blessed with so much humidity here that the iris thrive!
> (when
> they don't rot...)
> And even if the winters can hit hard, they don't seem to really mind.
> The pots of seeds are actually turning into ice cubes every now and then ,
> so
> i guess the ones that will germinate in these conditions have been warned
> they'd better get used to pretty tough conditions...
> My problem wit the rebloomers from warmer countries is that they are
> caught by
> the early frost.
> In fact, they do rebloom well, but a bit too early for here!
>
> We must shorten the time between the bloom and the rebloom, and they will
> be
> perfect for the zones 6-7 !
>
> Looc
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Impressive Irises
> To: iris@hort.net
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:02 PM
> Subject: RE: [iris] HYB:Rebloomers
>
>
> Hi Loic
>
> Would you believe that some of your "reliable" rebloomers , that I grow,
> have never rebloomed for me. Eg Vic Falls, Blue Suede Shoes.
> Breakers, Honey Glazed, Renown (which I threw away because it was so
> ugly)
> and Low Ho Silver do very occasionally. Forever Blue won't survive in
out
> hot climate.
> Do you mean Candy Walk or Candy Rock? Candy Rock blooms extremely early
> for
> us but has never rebloomed other than the year I imported it when it was
> very confused.
>
>
> Colleen Modra
> Adelaide Hills
> South Australia
>
> www.impressiveirises.com.au
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-iris@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of loic
> tasquier
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2008 5:35 AM
> To: iris@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [iris] HYB:Rebloomers
>
> Hello John,
>
> I have chosen to go for Rebloomers precisely for the reasons you are
> giving!
>
> I was SO FURIOUS not to see the so-called rebloomers do anything and
just
> fail
> me all the time that i have decided to beat them at their own game!
>
> With the help of the reliable ones, such as Low Ho Silver, Angel Heart,
> Forever Blue, Midsummer's eve, Charabia, What Again, Immortality,
> Starship,
> I'll be Back, I'm Back, Champagne encore, Hot, Frankincense, Cry Baby,
> Eternal
> Bliss, Buckweat, Violet Music, Elegant Lass, Rave Review, Altar Fire,
Zia
> Ida,
> Lenora Pearl, Blessed Again, Concoction, Bonus, Candy walk, Honey
Glazed,
> Autumn Tangerine, Baby Prince, Bright Eyes, Gypsy Boy, Derive, Best Bet,
> Blue
> Suede Shoes, Breakers, Pink Attraction, Earl of Essex, Renown, Victoria
> Falls,
> Banana Cream, Returning Chameleon, Dark Crystal, Cheeky, Over and Over,
> Skyking Returns............. i must stop now, but there are so many
here!
>
> It will be long, but i'm sure something good will come out of it.
> Even if only ONE of my seedlings makes it and reblooms in zone 3, i'll
> be
> Happy!
>
> My biggest issue will be the space, they need time to show their
talents,
> and
> more time in the ground means less space for seedling.
> We'll see!
>
>
> By the way, it also makes me furious, when so-called rebloomers,( in
fact
> they
> should be called "fall-bloomers" ), refuse to bloom in the spring....but
> this
> is another story....
>
> Looc
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Bruce
> To: iris@hort.net
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [iris] HYB:Rebloomers
>
>
> I can understand why the general gardening public wants reblooming
> irises.
> Irises are beautiful, and the "ratty, boring" foliage one has to look
> at
> all
> summer and fall is easily justified with rebloom. Again, this is
> speaking
> for the general gardener. I live in an area where rebloom is sparse
> even
> in
> a good year for it when you do all the right things and the weather
> cooperates. I hear many local folks complain about "supposedly a
> rebloomer"
> or "never rebloomed for me".
> I wonder how many folks are turned away from non-performing irises
> because
> they think it is just a marketing ploy or that it requires too much
> work
> to
> get rebloom? I agree that education about rebloom would counteract
much
> of
> this. It would also help if commercial sellers would not advertise
> everything that reblooms in sunny southern California as a rebloomer,
> because that is a unique climate.
>
> As a Zone 5 garden and seller of irises I can truthfully say I NEVER
> list
> anything as a rebloomer. Why? Because I owe it to my customer to
> deliver
> what is advertised. If I can't count on something to perform for me, I
> can
> not make a promise to my customer that it will do so for them.
>
> I am not at all against rebloom. However, as a person who attempts to
> hybridize, I never focus on rebloom. Space is limited, I can't really
> test
> for the trait in my seedlings, and so I make crosses with my
> preferences
> in
> form, vigor and color in mind. If a reblooming parent gets in there it
> is
> fine, but I never select a parent for that trait. I introduced
> BLACKMAIL
> last year. It has never even attempted to put up a rebloom stalk for
me
> in
> the 8 years that it was grown here, but a piece that was sent to
> California
> sent up a fall stalk. I still would never list it as a rbloomer.
>
> Betty W. lives about 3 hours or so due south of me, and frost hits
> there
> about 3 weeks after it does here. It does get cold where she is, but
> the
> length of season allows her to work with rebloom. Irises may indeed
> need
> to
> move in the direction of rebloom to remain relevant to more than just
> collectors, but keep in mind that there is still about 25% of the
> geography
> and population who live where a ***LOT*** of work will have to be done
> to
> make REbloom a relevant feature in irises :)
>
> No feathers ruffled, just a different perspective.
> John Bruce
>
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