Re: HYB: Question/marking crosses
iris@hort.net
  • Subject: Re: HYB: Question/marking crosses
  • From: c* f* <f*@yahoo.com>
  • Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:50:10 -0800 (PST)
Betty,

I don't think there's cause for compromise on the weather.  Sure,
we're getting some snow now, but I expect an early spring.  Bloom season
should set in the last week of April, maybe a few days earlier...

Once things
warm up, I think they'll stay warm... we'll have a smooth transition to
spring.  

I don't think this year will be quite as wet as the past season...
Christian,,




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From: "autmirislvr@aol.com"
<autmirislvr@aol.com>
To: iris@hort.net
Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 6:54:01
PM
Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: Question/marking crosses

<<being buried under
3-4-ft piles of snow.>>

Griff, I thought snow cover was good?

<<marking
crosses>>

My tags were originally made from strips cut from a milk jug. 
Something I
read in an old copy of Organic Gardening?  I've kept up with them
from year to
year and replaced any that were damaged.  One season I found all
but one
(about 200) and no amount of hunting could locate it.  About 2 years
later I
saw something glistening up in the tree next to my work bench!  My tag
was
dangling from a bird nest.  Mystery solved!

I think I switched to pieces
of vinyl shades the winter I moved out here.
Took the time to make a complete
new set.  The orange yarn was originally
bought for a "Nemo" quilt.  The past
couple of years I've been really thankful
for the orange yarn.  It's easy to
spot and helped me keep up with the seed
pods.

Yesterday I made new tags to
replace the missing ones. . . seems I did a
really poor job of retrieving the
"no take" tags last year.  They weren't high
on my priority list.  Some of you
know that I'm working on adapting to two new
knees!  The old ones got
extremely painful and I didn't make as many garden
rounds as normal.  I'm sure
I'll find the old tags as I do a spring clean up,
but I doubt they'll be in
decent shape after nearly a year.  Also, I have more
birds than ever and
there's no telling how many they've stolen.

Most of my irises are established
clumps with multiple stalks.  As a result I
rarely use pollen from more than
one donor on a stalk.  That way, if I can do
multiples, I have a "designated"
stalk.  In this case I just write "stalk" in
the notebook.  In 2008 I sat my
all time high with four pods on one stalk of
'Drinks @ Sunset.'  All the same
with 150 seed.  It was in a pot and I watered
it daily.

With snow on the
ground once again, I'm not going to ask about spring.  I'll
take my bad
weather now rather than spring!  (Trying to psych out Mother
Nature.)

Betty
Wilkerson
KY Zone 6







-----Original Message-----
From: J. Griffin Crump
<jgcrump@cox.net>
To: iris@hort.net
Sent: Fri, Feb 12, 2010 1:57 pm
Subject:
Re: [iris] HYB: Question/marking crosses


Hi, Francelle -- I guess we often
make decisions based mostly on our own
experience. In my case, the actual
disintegration of some cardboard sales tags
in a rainy season and necessity of
replacing them convinced me to go to vinyl.
My eyes also appreciate the bold
contrast of the Sharpie ink against the vinyl
vs. the pencil on paper. I also
use vinyl strips to label my planting pots,
with info printed both above and
below dirt level. As I indicated, though,
I'll probably try a batch of the
ones Anita is recommending, just to save
time. At the moment, I'm conjecturing
more about how the irises planted in
beds along the driveway are going to
appreciate this winter, after episodes of
being buried under 3-4-ft piles of
snow. -- Griff

----- Original Message ----- From: "Francelle and Marvin
Edwards"
<fjmjedwards@q.com>
To: <iris@hort.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 11,
2010 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: Question/marking crosses

> Hello,
Griff,
> Why do you go to the trouble of making plastic tags? I find that the
>
stringed tags last very well if I write on the with a No. 2 lead pencil. > I
keep the little cardboard tags in the net baggies I put over the pods >
through the ripening, shelling and soaking process until planting time. >
Through all this they are still readable.
> Francelle Edwards
>
>
--------------------------------------------------
> From: "J. Griffin Crump"
<jgcrump@cox.net>
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 2:32 PM
> To:
<iris@hort.net>
> Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: Question/marking crosses
>
>>
Thanks, I'll probably try a batch. What I currently do is buy red vinyl >>
looseleaf folders on sale, cut them into strips and snip the strips down >> to
1 1/2" x 1 1/2" squares, which I then punch holes into. I then buy >> stringed
sales tags (about $2 a hundred), snap off the tags, and thread >> the strings
on my vinyl squares. The key tags will be a bit more >> expensive, but they
will also save time. Worth trying. -- Griff
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Anita Moran"
<avmoran1@earthlink.net>
>> To: <iris@hort.net>
>>
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: [iris] HYB:
Question/marking crosses
>>
>>
>>> the small ones and they are about 4 1/2 "
with 2 1/2" writing area
>>> I Got The longer ones are about 6" 3" writing
area and are yellow.
>>> They are light weight and even versicolors have no
problem with them
>>> :)
>>> A
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>From: "J. Griffin Crump" <jgcrump@cox.net>
>>>>Sent: Feb 3, 2010 11:12 PM
>>>>To: iris@hort.net
>>>>Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: Question/marking crosses
>>>>
>>>>Anita -- How big are the larger and smaller sizes, and which do you
>>>>use?
>>>>(I don't see them listed on the site.) -- Griff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Anita Moran"
<avmoran1@earthlink.net>
>>>>To: <iris@hort.net>
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, February
02, 2010 3:03 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: Question/marking crosses
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> These work wonderful with a B lead pencil or paint marker
>>>>>
easy to attach on MDBs to TB and the rest. Come in 7 colors and 2 >>>>>
sizes
>>>>>
>>>>> Anita
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
http://www.cee-jay.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=9
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original
Message-----
>>>>>>From: autmirislvr@aol.com
>>>>>>Sent: Feb 2, 2010 1:37 PM
>>>>>>To: iris@hort.net
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: Question/marking
crosses
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You can usually get them at WalMart in the craft
department.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>><<Where do you get the markers/>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This is my online supplier. www.markersupply.com/elmerspainters.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Betty Wilkerson
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: Char <cholte@wi.rr.com>
>>>>>>To:
iris@hort.net
>>>>>>Sent: Tue, Feb 2, 2010 8:58 am
>>>>>>Subject: RE: [iris]
HYB: Question/marking crosses
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Betty,
>>>>>>es this was
very helpful.
>>>>>>Why not write an article for Kelly for the bulletin? He
has been
>>>>>>asking
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>rticles an I think this would be a good
one.
>>>>>>Where do you get the markers/
>>>>>>Char
>>>>>>-----Original
Message-----
>>>>>>rom: owner-iris@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
Behalf Of
>>>>>>utmirislvr@aol.com
>>>>>>ent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:23
AM
>>>>>>o: iris@hort.net
>>>>>>ubject: Re: [iris] HYB: Question/marking
crosses
>>>>>>Hi Char,
>>>>>>I have a set of reusable cross markers, numbered
1 thru 200. I cut
>>>>>>about
>>>>>>3
>>>>>>nch pieces of white blinds. I
round the ends for safety and use a
>>>>>>regular
>>>>>>aper punch to put a
hole in one end, then tie a piece of orange
>>>>>>knitting
>>>>>>arn
>>>>>>hrough the hole. A bright color helps locate them when I make the
>>>>>>rounds
>>>>>>o
>>>>>>heck on them.
>>>>>> I use a fine point paint pen
(Elmer's Painter.) I found a supplier
>>>>>> online.
>>>>>>hese stay readable
thru 3 months of sun and rain each year. I check
>>>>>>them
>>>>>>ach spring
about this time and replace any lost or damaged markers.
>>>>>>The crosses are
listed 1-?? in my record book. I list 2 per page
>>>>>>front
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>ack. In addition to the cross number, I list pod parent (always
>>>>>>first) X
>>>>>>ollen parent. Also, I list the date, time of day, &
weather
>>>>>>conditions at
>>>>>>he top of the first cross per day. If there
is only one cross on the
>>>>>>talk,
>>>>>>t is quite helpful to note which
flower was crossed, just in case the
>>>>>>deer
>>>>>>r
>>>>>>ind disturb the
marker or you use multiple pollen donors on one stalk.
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>se
>>>>>>y own form of shorthand. PT means primary terminal bud. SB2 would
>>>>>>mean
>>>>>>econd branch, secondary bud. Anything else I might want to
know later
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>oted in this space.
>>>>>>My record books are also
colorful. I use 9.5 x 6 inch 1 subject
>>>>>>notebook
>>>>>>by
>>>>>>ead. Red
or orange if I can find them. Their size makes them easy to
>>>>>>tick
>>>>>>n
a carrying bag, easier to spot if I misplace them. I have two sets,
>>>>>>one
>>>>>>or 'field crosses' and one with 'permanent numbers.' I carry the
>>>>>>second
>>>>>>et
>>>>>>ack into the garden for germination dates,
seedling counts, etc..
>>>>>>With
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>atter, I leave a couple of
pages per cross for notes.
>>>>>>Each afternoon or evening, I transcribe the
day's crosses onto an
>>>>>>Excel
>>>>>>preadsheet. It's good back up, but I
like to print out the final
>>>>>>sheet,
>>>>>>fter harvest, for study and
planning not located at the computer. If
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>ruly
>>>>>>ose the stud
book, I can use the spreadsheet to make a new one.
>>>>>>Hope this is helpful.
>>>>>>Betty W.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>rom: Char
<cholte@wi.rr.com>
>>>>>>o: iris@hort.net
>>>>>>ent: Mon, Feb 1, 2010 5:43 pm
>>>>>>ubject: RE: [iris] HYB: Questions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>i Betty,
>>>>>>will
respond to your suggestion. Now that I am retired, how do you
>>>>>>mark
>>>>>>u crosses. I tried a couple of years ago and the rain washed my
>>>>>>marking
>>>>>>gs clean. Then I lost me record book.
>>>>>>har
>>>>>>----Original Message-----
>>>>>>om: owner-iris@hort.net
[o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>tmirislvr@aol.com
>>>>>>nt:
Monday, February 01, 2010 2:00 PM
>>>>>>: iris@hort.net
>>>>>>bject: [iris]
HYB:Questions?
>>>>>>i All,
>>>>>>now and ice still glisten across the fields,
but tomorrow is Groundhog
>>>>>>Day!
>>>>>>n spring be far behind? Only 2 1/2
months until the little ones start
>>>>>>ooming in my garden!
>>>>>>t's great
fun to see your own seedlings bloom, addictive even! Even
>>>>>>if
>>>>>>ey
>>>>>>ok exactly like something you've seen before, they are genetically
>>>>>>fferent! A seedling is uniquely your own. Why not create an 'Edith
>>>>>>lford' (whatever) that blooms and grows well in your garden? Or an
>>>>>>'Edith
>>>>>>lford' that reblooms during early September in KY? I'd buy
that one
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>re!
>>>>>>rises are some of the easiest plants to
pollinate/cross. Why not
>>>>>>joint
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>n?
>>>>>>his is a good
time for new hybridizers to ask questions, any question.
>>>>>>meone on here
should be able to give an answer, or maybe several
>>>>>>answers.
>>>>>> can
never have enough hybridizers. Think of the many iris mysteries
>>>>>> yet
>>>>>>
>>>>>> solved!
>>>>>>ow is the time to prepare for spring!
>>>>>>etty
Wilkerson . . .
>>>>>>idge In Time Iris
>>>>>>ne 6/KY
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anita Moran
>>>>>
Pilmore Gardens
>>>>> USDA 6B
>>>>> Maryland
>>>>> AIS, ASI, FSKIS
>>>>>
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