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- Subject: Re: HYB: punnett squares for TBs (Facebook discussion)
- From: C* C* <i*@aim.com>
- Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 13:09:19 -0500 (EST)
No. several crosses added up. And it was a one way crosses. That is one parent having just one plicata gene x plicata (if I remember correctly). I'd have to look it up for more details. But a situation where you would get no plicatas without the tetraploid randomization.
Found it. bulletin 221 April 1976. "Tetrasomic segregation at the plicata locus". Also see his article in #193.
Chuck Chapman -----Original Message----- From: Linda Mann <lmann@lock-net.com> To: iris <iris@hort.net> Sent: Sat, Feb 8, 2014 12:46 pm Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: punnett squares for TBs (Facebook discussion) So Keith had at least 567 seedlings from one type of cross in order to get those data? Half a lifetime of careful work and record keeping. On 2/8/2014 11:55 AM, Chuck Chapman wrote:
Kidd's analysis of Keith's data showed plicata is far enough away from kinetechore to be independent. Thus tetraploid genetics operate on random sorting, rather then strictly a Punnett square assortment.But Punnett square still gives best predictions. The plants don't
care
what the genes are, they will all still sort out via tetraploidgenetics. It would take specific data to assess what distance genes
are
from kinetechore and thus how much independence. That is if you can identify a single gene affecting phenotype. As far as I know, Kiddonly looked at plicata genes. Mostly as Keith was keeping good
records
that Kidd could use. Geneticists need lots of good data to work with. Without it you are just working at theories. That is why I'm alwaysasking people for data, particularly on long crosses. I don't get
good
success rates on a lot of crosses in my problematic climate so have less data then I would like to work out gene effects. Chuck Chapman
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