Re: RE:HYB:Plicata Genetics part #6-Zonals

--- In iris-talk@egroups.com, "wmoores" <wmoores@w...> wrote:
> Chuck, thanks for helping me to understand my own children, ASCII 
> ART, FALL SPOTLIGHT, and SCORPIO STAR.
> 
> I have a challenge for you with Virginia Keyser's ZIGGY.  This is a 
> broken color variegata reblooming border iris from Autumn Bugler x 
> Faux Pas.  ZIGGY has golden yellow standards and burgundy falls 
> streaked yellow.
> 
> AB is from Emma Louisa, Violet Supreme and a seedling.  It is a 
> purple/violet self.
> 
> FP is Shenanigan x Change of Heart, both plicatas, and is a washed 
> plic.
> 
> How did ZIGGY get in this mix?
> 
> Walter Moores
> Enid Lake, MS USA 7/8

I've just spent some time looking back in the charts and think that I 
can provided some answers here. Faux Pas is a fancy plicata which 
wpold make it "pl pla pla plu" One thing that seems to happen when 
youe have all three alleles  present is the fight for control of the 
anthocyanin chanels With the fancy plicata (or luminata plicata) this 
shows as a wash between veins as well as some in the veins dep in the 
center of the flower.( I am planning to post some close up photos to 
illustrate the different distributions.) Autumn Bugler initially 
presented a problem. I followed its pedigree back and then concluded 
that it had to be a zonal. I then remembered that I haad some photos 
of it and I checked my photos. It clearly shows the white patch 
around the beard that we see with zonals. It has an orange tip to the 
beard which doen't change its classification as this is not an 
anthocyanin pigment. A grandparent of AB is Emma Loise. This is 
described as having  light lavender blue standards and red plum falls. 
I havn't seen a picture of it or heard the colour of its beard. 
Judging by its parentage it should also be a zonal with a yellow spot 
around its beard and with a yellow (or a mix of yellow and white) 
beard. Could anyone confirm or disconfirm this?
Thus Ziggy would likely be "pl pla plu plu". This may be the genetic 
combination that we see with broken colour. My initial speculation re 
broken colour was that it was an interaction with a seperate factor, 
(such as with the ring factor that I have seen with my SDB) but this 
cross suggests another interpretation. I will need to look at other 
family trees of broken colour to confirm this, but it looks promising. 
Bewilderbeast crossed with Rock Star produced a zonal seedling for 
Suttons so Bewilderbeast very likely  could also be this genotype, and 
most likely has two of the luminata genes (plu). 
Thanks very much for this question. It is exactly what I need to help 
sort out these plicata types.
Could anyone let me know about Emma Louise , re yellow zonal spot and 
lack of anthocyanin pigment in the beard? Or better yet post a photo.
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