Re: CULT: Weather and Judges


I Do wish weather conditions were at least noted sometimes, not for judging but for general growing conditions. The wind always blows here and some iris are not up to it. Batman at 42" does great the stalks stay perpendicular to the ground and the flowers do not suffer except in extreme conditions like hail or tree limbs, it even tolerates quite a bit of shade and Walnut Trees. Other  shorter iris fall over from the ground  or fold in half, how can they do that without breaking? Some iris do not even seem strong enough to hold up their own flowers. I will say that in general iris have improved over the last 15 years.
Wendy
----- Original Message ----- 
From: wmoores 
To: iris-talk@egroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 11:32 AM
Subject: [iris-talk] CULT: Weather and Judges


. . .  but you are also supposed to
> KNOW your irises and judge them accordingly, while at the same time taking
> into consideration the local weather conditions they were grown in.
> 
> Patrick Orr
> AZ Zone 9
> 
Patrick, what follows doesn't have anything to do with your original 
post about judging luminatas, but I do appreciate your statement 
above, particularly about local weather conditions.

Discussing weather conditions is a risky subject to bring to the 
attention of show judges just before the show.  In my experience here 
and elsewhere, a lot of judges don't want to hear or know about your 
weather conditions.  They are going to go by the book and judge each 
iris according to perfection for that variety no matter what (rain, 
hail, drought, a plague of locusts, etc).  A statement about the 
weather, to some judges, indicates to them that you want the judges 
to be lenient.  I don't know how this interpretation got started, but 
it is a fact of life in these parts.

I think a tour of the show and a general overview and walk-through 
first should help the judges decide about weather conditions.  But, 
if weather has been a factor, ask the judges what they saw in their 
overview.  If they don't see weather damage in their overview,  then 
I might bring up weather conditions if I am instructing the judges 
and feel that it might be a factor in how they judge.

Still, some judges are going to judge the stalk as a 'sculptured work 
of art' no matter what.

I guess you can tell this is a 'pet' subject of mine, but all weather 
conditions cannot be groomed away.

Walter Moores
Enid Lake, MS USA 7/8

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