Re: HYB:Plicata Patterns

--- In iris-talk@egroups.com, "wmoores" <wmoores@w...> wrote:
> These are a few observations regarding the plicata pattern.  Keith 
> Keppel needs to be answering this question as I am no expert.

Does Keith have an email address, and if so, could someone please
post 
it?

> Fancy pattern - all over markings on a darker ground as in JOSEPH'S 
> MANTLE or the updated TEST PATTERN.  All over fall pattern of 
> violet/purple on white ground as in PURPLE PEPPER.  The falls in 
> JITTERBUG.

I thought fancy plicatas were the same thing as luminatas (according 
to TWOI, anyway).  Or is fancy pattern plicata different than fancy 
plicata?

> Bi-color standard - Bluish markings on standards and purplish 
> markings on falls with white grounds as in ON EDGE or JIGSAW.  Might
> also be called bi-color banded or neglecta.

So the bi-color/banded/neglecta designation refers to the colors of 
the plicata markings rather than to the colors of the petals?
> 
> Amoena plicata - white standards with no markings and falls with 
> coloring narrow or wide.  ETCHED AMOENA or SCRIMSHAW.

Again, the amoena designation refers to the presence or absence of 
plic markings, and not to the color of the petals?

> Striped/veined - Some of these may not be plicatas at all.  I 
> question CIRCUS STRIPES (out of a zonal plus seedling) but agree on 
> AUTUMN CIRCUS and DOUBLE SHOT.

I don't understand.  What makes some striped cvs plics and others
not?  
Genetic history?  Is plicata not exclusively a matter of physical 
appearance?

Am I correct in defining stripes, veins, and striations as the same 
marking?

How about peppering, stipples, dots, and sanding?  How do these 
differ, or do they?

Thank you, Walter, for all of this.  I'll see if I can find photos of 
the cvs you mentioned to try to make sense of your designations in my 
own mind.

Laurie
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