Re: iris DIGEST V1 #582
- Subject: Re: [iris] iris DIGEST V1 #582
- From: "Willy Hublau" w*@i4surf.net
- Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 20:36:07 +0100
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From Willy Hublau,
pot growing Irises;
Be carefull for weather condition's, Irises in in pots need cold and winter protection.
I dig the pots in the soil or put mulch between them.
All my Japanese Irises ( 450 registered and hundreds SDL) are growing in pots, i protect the registrated plants with leaves for the winter, the SDL plants are browing without any protection.
The Belgium summer heat is not a real problem, but i cover the first row wiht straw or pine neadles.
----- Original Message ----- From: "iris DIGEST" <iris-owner@hort.net>
To: <iris-digest@hort.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 6:45 PM
Subject: [iris] iris DIGEST V1 #582
iris DIGEST Tuesday, January 3 2006 Volume 01 : Number 582
In this issue:
[iris] RE: Convention 2006 Room mates
Re: [iris] HYB: form - spider?
[iris] Re: [iris-photos] SPU:Strange Growth
Re: [iris] Re: [iris-photos] SPU:Strange Growth
[iris] HYB: successes & failures
[iris] Re: HYB: form - spider?
Re: [iris] CULT: iris in foreign climates
[iris] HYB: successes & failures
[iris]HYB:Drawbacks
Re: [iris] HYB: successes & failures
Re: [iris] HYB: successes & failures
RE: [iris]HYB:Drawbacks
Re: [iris]HYB:Drawbacks
Re: [iris]HYB:Drawbacks
RE: [iris]HYB:Drawbacks
Re: [iris]HYB:Drawbacks
RE: [iris]HYB:Drawbacks
[iris] Re: HYB: Drawbacks
RE: [iris]HYB:Drawbacks
Re: [iris] : CULT: iris in Pots
[iris] OT: way off topic...
Re: [iris]HYB:Drawbacks
[iris] CULT: Critter Food
Re: [iris]HYB:Drawbacks
Re: [iris] OT: way off topic...
[iris] CULT: SDB & MDB in the heat
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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 12:30:27 -0600
From: "Char Holte" <cholte@wi.rr.com>
Subject: [iris] RE: Convention 2006 Room mates
Hi,
Room mates is looking for another man who is going
to the Convention in Portland and looking for a
gentleman room mate.
If you know anyone contemplating going who is not
on the lists please let them know.
Thanks, Char
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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 11:03:39 -0800
From: John I Jones <jijones@usjoneses.com>
Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: form - spider?
I think you are referring to I. foetidissima
Picture at:
http://www.hort.net/lists/highlight.cgi?
bits=3&search=foetidissima&URL=iris-photos/jun01/msg00021.html#marker
with seeds at:
http://plants.thompson-morgan.com/uk/product/3358/1
John
On Jan 2, 2006, at 9:10 AM, Linda Mann wrote:
I got a note offlist from someone suggesting "spider" form irises might be interesting. Do any of you know of anyone trying to breed for spider form in bearded irises? Irises with long, narrow falls and standards? Maybe twisted and flared? For some reason, that makes me think of the shade iris - sorry, can't think of the species at the moment. The one with the brightly colored seeds. -- Linda Mann east Tennessee USA zone 7/8 East Tennessee Iris Society <http://www.korrnet.org/etis> American Iris Society web site <http://www.irises.org> talk archives: <http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-talk/> photos archives: <http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-photos/> online R&I <http://www.irisregister.com>John | "There be dragons here" | Annotation used by ancient cartographers | to indicate the edge of the known world. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 18:56:56 -0800 From: John I Jones <jijones@usjoneses.com> Subject: [iris] Re: [iris-photos] SPU:Strange Growth I have seen it on TBs as well as spurias. Think of them as "air increases." There have been some previous comments on the list about them, but I can't recall a keyword to find the messages. I recall that they are functional clones. Plant them... John On Jan 1, 2006, at 6:14 PM, Patrick Orr wrote:I have never seen this on a spuria iris before.B Out of the old spent bloom stalk is growing a new rhizome, complete with a root about at least an inch long.B This is only one of 3 different plants this has happened to.B B I know that various century plants and onions do this, and the walking iris also is known for this, but it usually happens where there was a flower, as opposed to right off theB side of a bloom stalk.B B Is this normal for spuria iris to do this?B Does this happen with other irises?B B I've included a few photos, one with the flash on and two without...from both sides of the plant. B Patrick Orr Phoenix, AZB Zone 9 USA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS b* B Visit your group "iris-photos" on the web. B b* B To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: B iris-photos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com B b* B Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. <strange growth.JPG><strange growth2.JPG><strange growth3.JPG>
John | "There be dragons here"
| Annotation used by ancient cartographers
| to indicate the edge of the known world.
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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 14:19:05 EST
From: Autmirislvr@aol.com
Subject: Re: [iris] Re: [iris-photos] SPU:Strange Growth
In a message dated 1/2/2006 1:07:30 P.M. Central Standard Time,
jijones@usjoneses.com writes:
<<but I can't recall a keyword to find the messages.>>
Proliferations? I've seen them a lot on daylilies and have grown several.
Just cut them loose and pot them. I guess you could bury them in the ground,
but I grew mine in pots first.
Betty W. in South-central KY Zone 6
Bridge In Time Iris Garden@website:
_www.thegardensite.com/irises/bridgeintime/_
(http://www.thegardensite.com/irises/bridgeintime/)
_Reblooming Iris - Home Page_ (http://www.rebloomingiris.com/)
_iris-photos archives_ (http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-photos/)
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Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 14:22:04 -0500
From: Linda Mann <lmann@volfirst.net>
Subject: [iris] HYB: successes & failures
Any of you have tips for reducing transplant shock for very small
seedlings? By very small, I mean only one leaf blade, or as small as
just a root showing. I'm surprised at how poor survival has been for
some of the burrito'd crosses this winter.
Betty (I think) asked us to share hybridizing failures as well as
successes. Biggest disappointment so far this winter have been crosses
with ABOVE THE CLOUDS pollen - they are dropping dead almost as fast as
they germinate. Pod parents were HARVEST OF MEMORIES and IMMORTALITY,
so I was expecting a bit tougher kids than this.
Freshly transplanted babies from all crosses got pretty stressed on the
unheated sun porch while outdoor temperatures were hitting 12o every
night. It was below 40 out there. I think all of the HoM X AtC babies
died, but a few of the IMM X AtC kids are still alive. And a <lot> of
seedlings from other crosses died (damped off).
Best survival of baby transplants so far: VIOLET MIRACLE X EASY LIVING
and ENGLISH COTTAGE X SHARPSHOOTER.
I wanted to get the ungerminated seeds outdoors for more winter chilling
as quickly as possible, but have decided to let the remaining seedlings
grow a bit more before transplanting.
Good (?) news is that those cold temperatures seem to have triggered
another flush of germination from several crosses.
- --
Linda Mann east Tennessee USA zone 7/8
East Tennessee Iris Society <http://www.korrnet.org/etis>
American Iris Society web site <http://www.irises.org>
talk archives: <http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-talk/>
photos archives: <http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-photos/>
online R&I <http://www.irisregister.com>
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Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 14:28:43 -0500
From: Linda Mann <lmann@volfirst.net>
Subject: [iris] Re: HYB: form - spider?
Yes, that's the one. Thanks John.
<think you are referring to I. foetidissima John>
- --
Linda Mann east Tennessee USA zone 7/8
East Tennessee Iris Society <http://www.korrnet.org/etis>
American Iris Society web site <http://www.irises.org>
talk archives: <http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-talk/>
photos archives: <http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-photos/>
online R&I <http://www.irisregister.com>
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Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 06:14:55 +1030
From: "Colleen Modra" <colleen@impressiveirises.com.au>
Subject: Re: [iris] CULT: iris in foreign climates
We sent a very large shipment to the UK last year and the Ag
Inspectors lost (held back) two of the four boxes for several weeks.
So it was about a month that the plants were in packaging. They all
apparently survived. Fortunately the recipient had paid for insurance.
Colleen Modra
Adelaide Hills AUST
zone 8/9
colleen@impressiveirises.com.au
- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Johnson" <diveta@mail.pf>
To: <iris@hort.net>
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: [iris] CULT: iris in foreign climates
Hi:Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 16:02:36 EST
I'm still suffering though and haven't given up hope yet, with
the same kind of mail problem. Three parcels were sent to me
from France of Amaryllis bulbs on the same day. Two parcels
arrive a month ago and were promptly delivered after having
passed the local agricultural inspection (most of those amaryllis
are now blooming) and no one can find the third parcel, which as
luck would have it is the largest parcel. Living outside the US,
we have to get use to this kind of things, although it is quite
rare.
As I mentioned though, the hardest part is finding supplier that
can provide the required phytosanitary certificate.
Happy Iris Growing To All
Dick Johnson, Tahiti
----- Original Message ----- From: "jgcrump" <jgcrump@erols.com>
To: <iris@HORT.NET>
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 1:11 PM
Subject: [iris] CULT: iris in foreign climates
> Since we're discussing iris in foreign climes, I'm pleased to
report some
> relief in the concern I've been feeling about a shipment of TB
and IB irises I
> sent to the southeast coast of Ireland this fall.
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From: Autmirislvr@aol.com
Subject: [iris] HYB: successes & failures
In a message dated 1/2/2006 1:25:44 P.M. Central Standard Time,
lmann@volfirst.net writes:
<<flush of germination>>
Finally got the straw cover over my seed pots. I would have preferred
leaves but spoiled straw was the best I could find. Hope the cover will control
both temperatures and moisture enough to increase my germination rate. They
are also in fair amount of shade. This imitates conditions in one of my two
best years for germination.
If the pots don't receive enough sun during mid March, I will move them to a
more sunny location when I take the mulch off.
In 20 years I've not, to my knowledge, lost one iris seedling to 'dampening
off.' Have lost veggies to dampening off.
I think I lost a small number this year to roundup drift! First time that
has happened. On the rare occasion I get that close I hose them off or cut off
sever spots on fans. Seedling just can't handle it. Somehow I didn't see
it this time. Would say maybe they were just weak but they were in a row in a
planting that was extremely strong.
Betty W. in South-central KY Zone 6
Bridge In Time Iris Garden@website:
_www.thegardensite.com/irises/bridgeintime/_
(http://www.thegardensite.com/irises/bridgeintime/)
_Reblooming Iris - Home Page_ (http://www.rebloomingiris.com/)
_iris-photos archives_ (http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-photos/)
_iris-talk archives_ (http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-talk/)
_AIS: American Iris Society website_ (http://www.irises.org/)
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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:09:35 EST
From: Autmirislvr@aol.com
Subject: [iris]HYB:Drawbacks
Did you ever have a good laugh at yourself? I just went to check one of my
iris beds to see how an iris was doing. Common practice, but this time I
took a hammer with me. How much good I thought a hammer would be against a
mountain lion is beyond me. I mean how close would he have to be for me to get
him with a claw hammer??
Neighbor found the bodies of 2 deer, a calf, and a dog, all close together.
(between me and the creek) We've been told that the only animal that brings
it's food home AND that would kill a dog is the mountain lion. We had
reports of this guy in May when I came home from the convention. After carrying a
weapon into the garden for a couple of months, I kinda forgot about it.
Anyone on the list familiar with BIG CAT habits?? Write me off list.
Oh! Do Mountain Lions eat irises? <vbg>
Betty W. in South-central KY Zone 6
Bridge In Time Iris Garden@website:
_www.thegardensite.com/irises/bridgeintime/_
(http://www.thegardensite.com/irises/bridgeintime/)
_Reblooming Iris - Home Page_ (http://www.rebloomingiris.com/)
_iris-photos archives_ (http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-photos/)
_iris-talk archives_ (http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-talk/)
_AIS: American Iris Society website_ (http://www.irises.org/)
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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:24:45 -0500
From: "jgcrump" <jgcrump@erols.com>
Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: successes & failures
Betty -- Despite the best-laid plans of mice and men . . . (Who said
hat -- Robert Burns?) I think there are climatic conditions or genetic
codes that determine what kind of germination we ultimately get in any given
year. This is based on observation of germination rates among fellow
hybridizers in this area over the years. Individually, we can repeat our
planting method religiously from one year to the next and still get markedly
varying results from one year to the next. Individually, this is mystifying
and frustrating, but when one sees the same thing happening to his fellow
hybridizers in the same year, it indicates to me that something is occurring
that is beyond both our ken and our control -- at least at this time.
So, I wish you well in duplicating the conditions for your two best zears,
but I wouldngt bet the farm on it. (Oh, my -- it appears mz kezboard has
gone Turkish on me! -- Bless Bill Gates[ heart, as thez saz here in the
south! I[d better end this message and see if I can repair the blessed
thing.) -- Griff
- ----- Original Message ----- From: <Autmirislvr@aol.com>
To: <iris@hort.net>
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 4:02 PM
Subject: [iris] HYB: successes & failures
In a message dated 1/2/2006 1:25:44 P.M. Central Standard Time,------------------------------
lmann@volfirst.net writes:
<<flush of germination>>
Finally got the straw cover over my seed pots. I would have preferred
leaves but spoiled straw was the best I could find. Hope the cover will
control
both temperatures and moisture enough to increase my germination rate.
They
are also in fair amount of shade. This imitates conditions in one of my
two
best years for germination.
If the pots don't receive enough sun during mid March, I will move them to
a
more sunny location when I take the mulch off.
In 20 years I've not, to my knowledge, lost one iris seedling to
'dampening
off.' Have lost veggies to dampening off.
I think I lost a small number this year to roundup drift! First time
that
has happened. On the rare occasion I get that close I hose them off or
cut off
sever spots on fans. Seedling just can't handle it. Somehow I didn't
see
it this time. Would say maybe they were just weak but they were in a row
in a
planting that was extremely strong.
Betty W. in South-central KY Zone 6
Bridge In Time Iris Garden@website:
_www.thegardensite.com/irises/bridgeintime/_
(http://www.thegardensite.com/irises/bridgeintime/)
_Reblooming Iris - Home Page_ (http://www.rebloomingiris.com/)
_iris-photos archives_ (http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-photos/)
_iris-talk archives_ (http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-talk/)
_AIS: American Iris Society website_ (http://www.irises.org/)
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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 18:20:53 EST
From: Autmirislvr@aol.com
Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: successes & failures
In a message dated 1/2/2006 4:27:02 P.M. Central Standard Time,
jgcrump@erols.com writes:
<<I think there are climatic conditions or genetic codes that determine what
kind of germination we ultimately get in any given year.>>
Griff, I suspect you may be right.
I live less than six miles from where I gardened in Alvaton, but many things
are different. In each location I've had two acres but there were many
trees on the lot in Alvaton with NO trees here. Some irises that did well there
don't do well here.
Lots more wind here so the pots dry out faster. At any rate, I can only
manage about 50% germination here. And that's if I save pots for 2 years. I
get almost as many the second year.
Everything is varied, but it could be the individual season that is making
the difference.
Either way . . . I'm looking forward to spring. If given the option, I'd
forfeit the next three months! Provided my seedlings would still sprout.
Betty W. in South-central KY Zone 6
Bridge In Time Iris Garden@website:
_www.thegardensite.com/irises/bridgeintime/_
(http://www.thegardensite.com/irises/bridgeintime/)
_Reblooming Iris - Home Page_ (http://www.rebloomingiris.com/)
_iris-photos archives_ (http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-photos/)
_iris-talk archives_ (http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-talk/)
_AIS: American Iris Society website_ (http://www.irises.org/)
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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:37:24 -0600
From: "The Benbows" <benbows@yhti.net>
Subject: RE: [iris]HYB:Drawbacks
Hi,
I live in the Ozarks in Missouri near Lake Ozark.
Two years ago I found Mountain Lion tracks near our house and even in the
snow across my front yard. One of my neighbors raises goats and several were
missing and our cat went missing. We live in a very rural area next to a
State Park and have lots of deer here lion's favorite food.
I had the conservation people come out and they confirmed the tracks were a
large cat but said there have been no lion sightings in this area in 20-30
years! Then my neighbor saw it one night and a turkey hunter on our property
spotted it.
These cats are very nocturnal and stealthy but for the most part avoid
people. I was told when going into the woods or even leaving the house at
night turn on lights and make a lot of noise. But with small children around
be careful. I recently watched a special on TV about these cats and they are
very powerful. DON'T RUN from them! Try to make yourself as large and
opposing a figure as possible, hope I never meet one.
I have two dogs here at the house but still often carry a gun in the woods.
Bob Benbow Camdenton Missouri.
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-iris@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
Autmirislvr@aol.com
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 4:10 PM
To: iris@hort.net
Subject: [iris]HYB:Drawbacks
Did you ever have a good laugh at yourself? I just went to check one of my
iris beds to see how an iris was doing. Common practice, but this time I
took a hammer with me. How much good I thought a hammer would be against a
mountain lion is beyond me. I mean how close would he have to be for me to
get
him with a claw hammer??
Neighbor found the bodies of 2 deer, a calf, and a dog, all close together.
(between me and the creek) We've been told that the only animal that brings
it's food home AND that would kill a dog is the mountain lion. We had
reports of this guy in May when I came home from the convention. After
carrying a
weapon into the garden for a couple of months, I kinda forgot about it.
Anyone on the list familiar with BIG CAT habits?? Write me off list.
Oh! Do Mountain Lions eat irises? <vbg>
Betty W. in South-central KY Zone 6
Bridge In Time Iris Garden@website:
_www.thegardensite.com/irises/bridgeintime/_
(http://www.thegardensite.com/irises/bridgeintime/)
_Reblooming Iris - Home Page_ (http://www.rebloomingiris.com/)
_iris-photos archives_ (http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-photos/)
_iris-talk archives_ (http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-talk/)
_AIS: American Iris Society website_ (http://www.irises.org/)
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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 16:02:24 -0800
From: <loberg@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: [iris]HYB:Drawbacks
That would be the least of your worries!Oh! Do Mountain Lions eat irises? <vbg> Betty W. in South-central KY Zone 6
My neighbor who has been accepting irises from me recently dug up all the
irises and destroyed them. She told me her puppy dog (shepard type) dug up
the irises and ate them, and they made her dog so sick she had to take it to
the vet... who told her irises were poisonous. I've never known a dog to
voluntarily target and eat irises!
K. Loberg, Northern Calif.
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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 16:30:41 -0800
From: John I Jones <jijones@usjoneses.com>
Subject: Re: [iris]HYB:Drawbacks
On Jan 2, 2006, at 4:02 PM, <loberg@adelphia.net> wrote:
Oh! Do Mountain Lions eat irises? <vbg> Betty W. in South-central KY Zone 6That would be the least of your worries! My neighbor who has been accepting irises from me recently dug up all the irises and destroyed them. She told me her puppy dog (shepard type) dug up the irises and ate them, and they made her dog so sick she had to take it to the vet... who told her irises were poisonous. I've never known a dog to voluntarily target and eat irises!
I never realized irises were poisonous but:
http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/consumer/poison/Iris_sp.htm
My shepherd never even walked in my iris beds, let alone ate one. My
bet is that there was something else in the soil that attracted the
puppy.
John | "There be dragons here"
| Annotation used by ancient cartographers
| to indicate the edge of the known world.
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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:50:58 -0700
From: "Janet" <janet.tollenaar@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [iris]HYB:Drawbacks
I don't think Irises are actually poisonous. They can be somewhat toxic if
taken in huge amounts, but most rhizhomes and bulbs taste extremely bitter
and it is unlikely that children or dogs would eat them. Sounds like your
neighbour has issues of her own and could be slightly psychotic.
My daughter is a veterinary nurse and although puppies do eat unusual
things - especially when teething, it sound rather bizarre for a puppy to go
to all the trouble of digging up and eating the roots.
additional info, if you google: blue flag + iris + herbal remedy is a
common remedy for liver dysfunction and other organs.... But I think that's
only for vericolour.
~~ Janet ~~
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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:28:07 EST
From: Autmirislvr@aol.com
Subject: Re: [iris]HYB:Drawbacks
In a message dated 1/2/2006 6:34:00 P.M. Central Standard Time,
jijones@usjoneses.com writes:
<<I never realized irises were poisonous>>
Can't find it right now, but I've always understood that biting or eating
irises could make a person's tongue and throat swell. My youngest was about
two when I started collecting modern irises. I wouldn't let her near them.
Everything goes into the mouth of a 2 year old.
Back then I had a listing of every plant, what parts were toxic, and what
the results would be.
I had a Pully (dog) that loved to dig for moles in the iris beds. He'd dig
half way to China, but he never offered to chew on any part of an iris. He
was a mess to clean.
Betty W. in South-central KY Zone 6
Bridge In Time Iris Garden@website:
_www.thegardensite.com/irises/bridgeintime/_
(http://www.thegardensite.com/irises/bridgeintime/)
_Reblooming Iris - Home Page_ (http://www.rebloomingiris.com/)
_iris-photos archives_ (http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-photos/)
_iris-talk archives_ (http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-talk/)
_AIS: American Iris Society website_ (http://www.irises.org/)
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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:28:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Jeffrey Walters <jeffwiris@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [iris]HYB:Drawbacks
Janet <janet.tollenaar@gmail.com> wrote: My daughter is a veterinary nurse and although puppies do eat unusual
things - especially when teething, it sound rather bizarre for a puppy to go
to all the trouble of digging up and eating the roots.
Pliny the Elder, the Roman compiler of natural history lore, recommended hanging a piece of iris rhizome on a string around a baby's neck as a pacifier when it was teething. Perhaps the dog in question is a Latin scholar?
With reference to Betty's original query: cougars are quite common around here, though they mostly stay up in the mountains. I have never heard of any attacks on people by them in Utah, where cougars are actively hunted and retain a healthy wariness regarding close contact with humans. The story is quite different in parts of California and Colorado, where cougars are not hunted and have lost their fear of humans. Since cougars are presumably not being hunted in areas like Kentucky where their presence is largely unrecognized, it seems that due caution would be advisable. The hammer is probably useless, and might only give a false sense of security, since you would never see or hear the cougar in time to make use of it.
Jeff Walters
in northern Utah
(USDA Zone 4)
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Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:06:28 -0500
From: Linda Mann <lmann@volfirst.net>
Subject: [iris] Re: HYB: Drawbacks
As a kid, I nibbled on an iris rhizome once - it was absolutely awful.
Strong oxalic acid taste.
On the other hand, dogs eat strange things sometimes. I had a puppy who
ate a whole bar of soap once. Called the vet, who said pour a cup of
salt down his throat to make him vomit. I held the dog's mouth open
(cooperative Golden Retriever), poured in the salt, then the dog and I
looked at each other - now what are we supposed to do?? .....Maybe I
was supposed to dissolve the salt in water first.......
<My bet is that there was
something else in the soil that attracted the puppy.
John | "There be dragons here">
- --
Linda Mann east Tennessee USA zone 7/8
East Tennessee Iris Society <http://www.korrnet.org/etis>
American Iris Society web site <http://www.irises.org>
talk archives: <http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-talk/>
photos archives: <http://www.hort.net/lists/iris-photos/>
online R&I <http://www.irisregister.com>
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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:29:22 -0500
From: "Steve Szabo" <steve@familyszabo.com>
Subject: RE: [iris]HYB:Drawbacks
So, you had a puli, the dog with dreadlocks, huh? That's a working dog, and
needed a job to do. I think the mole chasing was its chosen profession for
you. Apparently, it is an interesting dog to bathe and groom--takes forever
to dry the coat, and you must ensure the cords are properly separated at the
skin.
\\Steve//
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Subject: Re: [iris]HYB:Drawbacks
In a message dated 1/2/2006 6:34:00 P.M. Central Standard Time,
jijones@usjoneses.com writes:
<<I never realized irises were poisonous>>
Can't find it right now, but I've always understood that biting or eating
irises could make a person's tongue and throat swell. My youngest was
about
two when I started collecting modern irises. I wouldn't let her near them.
Everything goes into the mouth of a 2 year old.
Back then I had a listing of every plant, what parts were toxic, and what
the results would be.
I had a Pully (dog) that loved to dig for moles in the iris beds. He'd dig
half way to China, but he never offered to chew on any part of an iris. He
was a mess to clean.
Betty W. in South-central KY Zone 6
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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 18:29:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Pat Norvell <patsiris@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [iris] : CULT: iris in Pots
Speaking of pot culture, I have for a couple of years been growing the Willott's
SDB and MDB irises in pots because they grow and bloom better in pots here in hot Texas. Last year I exibited the only MDB most of the FW Iris Society had ever seen.
It got a blue ribbon too.
Pat in Dallas
Linda Mann <lmann@volfirst.net> wrote: Welcome to the group, Dick.
I've been delighted with results growing TBs in 3 or 4 gallon pots of
what we've been calling 'dirty perlite' - about 90% perlite, the rest a
mix of composted manure and commercial potting soil.
The 45% fir bark, 20% pumice, and 35% peat moss mix sounds to me like it
might hold too much water for such a warm wet climate. ?
What's the geology of Tahiti - is it volcanic? Maybe crushed volcanic
rock
would work as a
substitute for pumice/perlite? Tef? Charcoal might work - certainly
worth experimenting with.
I just re-read your note and see you said the soil is clay, so I guess
that means Tahiti is coral/limestone, not volcanic?
A couple of folks have posted about growing TBs in pots in Florida and
Louisiana in the past - might search the archives (see link below my
signature) to see what they had to say. They did have success with some
of the rebloomers not needing any cold period below freezing, but my
experience says that most do need some time colder than your 65o to keep
blooming. So the refrigerator might be necessary.
I had never thought of putting bare root rhizomes of rebloomers in the
refrigerator to trick them into earlier fall bloom. Might be another
way to be able to make crosses with cultivars that bloom so early and
rebloom so late that they get hit by freezes here.
Do you remember the names of the cultivars that went on to bloom the
second year without chilling? Interesting that there are some that can
tolerate year round heat and humidity.
- --
Linda Mann east Tennessee USA zone 7/8
East Tennessee Iris Society
American Iris Society web site
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online R&I
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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 19:33:09 -0700
From: "Janet" <janet.tollenaar@gmail.com>
Subject: [iris] OT: way off topic...
For those pet lovers,
To make dogs vomit - give them Hydrogen Peroxide. Depending on how big the
dog is, the more you feed...
Three percent hydrogen peroxide (NOT hair coloring strength peroxide) is
quite effective in making dogs and cats vomit. You must be sure to use three
percent peroxide. Despite the label indicating that hydrogen peroxide is
toxic, it is safe to give to dogs for this purpose. It is considered toxic
since it induces vomiting and therefore does not stay in the body.
The appropriate dose of hydrogen peroxide is one teaspoon per 10 pounds of
body weight. If you have an oral syringe, one teaspoon equals 5 cc or 5 ml.
Once given, walk your dog around or gently shake the stomach area to mix the
peroxide with the stomach contents. Vomiting should occur within 15 to 20
minutes. If no vomiting occurs, you can safely repeat the three percent
hydrogen peroxide once. If it is still not effective, your dog may need to
be seen by a veterinarian for stronger vomiting medication.
Once the hydrogen peroxide is given, it is important to watch your pet so
that he does not re-ingest the substance. If there is concern about
toxicity, collect and take a sample of the vomitus to your veterinarian.
~~ Janet ~~
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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:44:46 EST
From: Autmirislvr@aol.com
Subject: Re: [iris]HYB:Drawbacks
In a message dated 1/2/2006 8:31:34 P.M. Central Standard Time,
steve@familyszabo.com writes:
<<So, you had a puli, the dog with dreadlocks, huh?>>
He was a stray. Knew I spelled it wrong too, but didn't take the time to
look it up.
He was injured and he found a good home to recoup. I didn't know what his
breed was at the time. Even thought he might be some Poodle mix. My daughter
and I started watching the dog shows and that is how we discovered his
breed. There is a large mennonite community in our area. I understand they keep
the breed. We figure he strayed from there.
He was the best dog I've ever had. Named him Weebles. I could tell he
thought he was doing me a favor by digging up the moles. Excellent breed.
Betty W. in South-central KY Zone 6
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_www.thegardensite.com/irises/bridgeintime/_
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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 22:14:20 -0500
From: "Michael D. Greenfield" <mgreenfield@cinci.rr.com>
Subject: [iris] CULT: Critter Food
I have had squirrels dig up rhizomes and eat part of them. No lack of
squirrels here so must not hurt them. Most of the time they just dig them up,
a few of them they cut the roots off. Sometimes the same one 4 or 5 times. If
I can tell where they dug it up I replant it. Half the time I can not. I have
to throw it away. I pitch 5 to 15 every year.
Some times the eat the top of the rhizomes above ground. I have found rhizomes
6' up in the crotch of a tree. Once I found a daylilies growing in the
crotch.They also eat my tomatoes. One year I had a 3' iguana eating my
tomatoes. Found it dead under car where we had run over it.
At my last house I planted sweetcorn. I had a dog. I made the rows and planted
the seeds. For some reason I left before covering them up. I went back to
cover them, hurrying because it was time to go to work.
Two weeks later very few seeds came up. Humm bad seeds. Went to a different
place to buy more. Made the rows and put the seeds in. Went to get hoe to
cover them up and heard a crunching sound. My dog was eating the seeds.
Had a Pekinese that would eat anything. Got bit and cut getting broken pop
bottle out of her mouth. Would open cabinet door and get a onion and eat it.
Could pull up green onions to eat. I had to dig them to get them with out
breaking them off. Loved carrots and all fruits.
Never had dogs bother iris.
Mike Greenfield
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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 22:24:58 -0500
From: "jgcrump" <jgcrump@erols.com>
Subject: Re: [iris]HYB:Drawbacks
As Steve would know, the puli's specialty in his native Hungary is herding
sheep, which he does by jumping on the backs of the lead sheep and nipping
to control their direction. Another great Hungarian dog is the komandor, a
large guard dog which, like the puli, resembles a mop, but much bigger. A
komandor of my acquaintance once caught a burglar whom it subdued by
standing on his chest. The only problem was, it at first refused to
surrender the burglar to the sheriff's deputies. After all, it was HIS
burglar! -- Griff
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Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [iris]HYB:Drawbacks
In a message dated 1/2/2006 8:31:34 P.M. Central Standard Time,------------------------------
steve@familyszabo.com writes:
<<So, you had a puli, the dog with dreadlocks, huh?>>
He was a stray. Knew I spelled it wrong too, but didn't take the time to
look it up.
He was injured and he found a good home to recoup. I didn't know what
his
breed was at the time. Even thought he might be some Poodle mix. My
daughter
and I started watching the dog shows and that is how we discovered his
breed. There is a large mennonite community in our area. I understand
they keep
the breed. We figure he strayed from there.
He was the best dog I've ever had. Named him Weebles. I could tell he
thought he was doing me a favor by digging up the moles. Excellent
breed.
Betty W. in South-central KY Zone 6
Bridge In Time Iris Garden@website:
_www.thegardensite.com/irises/bridgeintime/_
(http://www.thegardensite.com/irises/bridgeintime/)
_Reblooming Iris - Home Page_ (http://www.rebloomingiris.com/)
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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 22:29:36 -0500
From: "jgcrump" <jgcrump@erols.com>
Subject: Re: [iris] OT: way off topic...
My dogs always vomited without needing to be given hydrogen peroxide,
unfortunately. -- Griff
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To: <iris@hort.net>
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:33 PM
Subject: [iris] OT: way off topic...
For those pet lovers,
To make dogs vomit - give them Hydrogen Peroxide. Depending on how big
the
dog is, the more you feed...
Three percent hydrogen peroxide (NOT hair coloring strength peroxide) is
quite effective in making dogs and cats vomit. You must be sure to use
three
percent peroxide. Despite the label indicating that hydrogen peroxide is
toxic, it is safe to give to dogs for this purpose. It is considered toxic
since it induces vomiting and therefore does not stay in the body.
The appropriate dose of hydrogen peroxide is one teaspoon per 10 pounds of
body weight. If you have an oral syringe, one teaspoon equals 5 cc or 5
ml.
Once given, walk your dog around or gently shake the stomach area to mix
the
peroxide with the stomach contents. Vomiting should occur within 15 to 20
minutes. If no vomiting occurs, you can safely repeat the three percent
hydrogen peroxide once. If it is still not effective, your dog may need to
be seen by a veterinarian for stronger vomiting medication.
Once the hydrogen peroxide is given, it is important to watch your pet so
that he does not re-ingest the substance. If there is concern about
toxicity, collect and take a sample of the vomitus to your veterinarian.
~~ Janet ~~
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