Possible platform for iris-groups if you wanted to move or add
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  • Subject: Possible platform for iris-groups if you wanted to move or add
  • From: G* L* <f*@rewrite.hort.net>
  • Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 16:48:23 -0800
Hi iris talk folks,

1)  I've run a large yahoo group for about 14 years, around 3,200 members,
and run several smaller ones.
The forced-advent of ikky neo-yahoo format, several years ago,
decimated most yahoo groups,
with message frequency drastically dropping off, people leaving groups.

A number of people have been trying stuff out/researching, possible
platforms to move groups to --

https://groups.io/
Groups.io is a platform that a number of group owners/moderators are
starting to use.

2)  I very very very strongly hope that non-AIS iris discussion groups continue!

Many folks would never think of joining a flower organization, but
might find an iris discussion group online.
(I'd grown up with iris, but until I heard Roger Nelson talking about
HIPS, I'd never even thought of joining an iris organization)

And these need to be FREE, you don't have to subscribe to any organization --

3)  I don't think facebook is ever going to be similar to a group that
does/wants in-depth discussion --
yep, some folks give various examples, but facebook pushes towards
short/definite/.
On facebook, you'll always be fighting the design of the platform.

4)  I've seen some iris folks say they want iris discussion groups
where there can be detail,
but quite a number of time on the old HIPS forum, when I'd spend an
hour trying to write-up some reply to questions,
some person or couple of people would diss me --
and I could never get any leadership in HIPS to counter that.
And several folks told me, they quit going to that forum, after that.

SO -- I think it's important that people who are running/leading
groups, show leadership, and support/encourage depth.

We've seen this kind of back-and-forth for years, in cat rescue groups
-- in many groups that were not well run,
any type of detailed discussion/debate, was jumped on --
someone here I think mentioned usenet --
What we've seen that works well, is for people running a group, to
model the type of discussion/detail they'd like to see,
and to moderate anyone who was being a jerk.

Iris-talk has had great amounts of detail over the years, thank you!!

5)  I don't think one needs to complicate things too much -- don't
need a PR specialist, really!

6)  Having freely-available information --
I think
http://wiki.irises.org/bin/view/Hist/ArticlesOnHistoricIris
is really excellent, don't have to be a member to see this -- I wish
it were easier for random people to find --

Good luck all!

Gesine

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