RE: hybridizing questions was Attention -- Class of '97


Maureen Mark wrote:

>  What genes are involved with "red" and "black" irises?  =


"Red" is a complicated issue.  =

Werckmeister wrote of some =

interesting tests concerning the
pigments.

In a practical sense, the true red
pigment remains elusive and the
"reds" we have are either reddish-
violet or reddish-brown.  Both are
seem to involve multiple series of
alleles,a dosage effect,  and [perhaps]
modifiers.

"Black" is similar -- they can be a =

bluish-black, a reddish-black, or
a brownish-black.  =


Either of these complex families
would be a good study subject that
could lead to worthwhile experiments.

>  Are these
>  colours dominant?

That's not a yes/no question [see
above] but some component traits
are dominant.

>  Is purple based foliage a dominant trait? =

Yes.

>  Any chance that someone might
>  have the time and resources to put together a comprehensive list of
>  known dominant and recessive traits?

I've been collecting source material
on this subject for over 20 years, but
I wouldn't describe it as comprehensive.

> The plicata gene is recessive but also carries other recessive traits
> such as glaciatas, luminatas and broken colours.  These have been
> written up in past AIS bulletins.  Are there other recessive genes that=

> might have the same potential?

Definitely.  A trait is dominant or recessive
with respect to something else.  Eliminate
the dominant allele of a series and lower
level recessives may show themselves.
I haven't studied Barry Blythe's red-blacks
from amoena lines in depth, but they might
be an example of this phenomenon.

>  On line-breeding, how many generations can be pursued without weakenin=
g
>  the line, i.e., when should backcrosses and outcrosses be carried out.=

>  I know that this will vary for the types of lines being pursued but a
>  rule of thumb would be helpful.

A very interesting question.  I can't suggest
a number from personal experience because
outcrossing is an integral part of my program.
I can report, though, that the percenatage of
vigorous plants from out-crossing has been
no better [and sometimes much worse] than
those obtained from line-breeding. But  I think =

that is more reflective of my selection process
than descriptive of the genetic potential.

Sharon McAllister
73372.1745@compuserve.com



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