OT: iris-list lurking


Walter wrote:
>Don't we already have this?  Iris-talk, Lairis, JI-talk, Friday Nite Chat.

Don't forget Sib Rob, Iris-photos, and the iris forum at the garden web.
These used to be all together. If you add up the traffic on all of these, it 
is quite substantial.

>I do not know how you get people to chat.  We have over 500 on iris-talk 
>now, but I think 490 are lurkers.  It is left up to just a few to suggest 
>topics,  most of which are really good but many times
0don't get answers or follow-ups.

490? I counted 99 contributers in the last 2 weeks (from the mallorn 
archives) That makes nearly 20%. I'm sure there are many more than this, who 
contribute once in a while.
Compared with other lists I am involved with, percentage wise, that is a 
little low, but in sheer numbers quite high.

With 500+ people on the list it appears there are over 300 lurkers.
Perhaps we need to ask ourselves why?

Some reasons I can think of are:
1. Just like to read, and not participate.
2. Wish to remain anonymous.
3. Only read their archives once a week, and any threads they might have 
contributed to have run thin.
4. Have difficulty with subject headings and fear reprimands.
5. Are afraid of asking stupid questions.
6. Have set no mail, rather than unsubscribe, and only appear to be members.
7. Could answer a question but don't have time, or think someone else might 
be more knowledgeable.
8. Have become so hooked on irises through their participation on this list, 
that they no longer have time to write to the list :-)

People do still ask plenty of questions. There are a lot of iris lovers 
asking questions on the iris forum, and many of them never get an answer. 
They are the same old things that have been done to death on this list - 
when to divide, how to remove stalks, iris borer control, 'my irises have 
all turned white', cutting back foliage, where to obtain certain varieties.

We might get more participation on this list, and you might get more 
membership in iris societies, if occassionally some of the more 
knowledgeable people on this list had a quick read through the forum 
questions and shared their knowledge with those less informed.
If each of us visited there, and answered a couple of questions, even once a 
month, this would help. Some already do this, I know.

There is an obvious reluctance on this list to rehash the same old issues 
over and over. Some list members don't want to be bothered with
the amount of mail this would involve.
Our archives are a fantastic record of past discussions, but I think if
people can see that they are not going to get a better answer than a 
referral to the archives, some will stop asking.

It comes down to trying to please all of the people all of the time - an 
impossible task. So we have a few very interesting discussions on this list, 
and people who can't cope with the depth of some of these discussions can 
ask questions on the forum, and maybe get an uninformed answer, or even no 
answer at all.

What do other people think - especially lurkers? Why are you out there 
lurking and not writing occassionally?
Now is your chance!

Cheers, Jan Clark

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