Re: Re: HYB: old vs new & breeding tougher pinks

No, Linda, I don't have Pinafore Pink.  It certainly sounds interesting.  I want early ones.  Late ones tend to burn in the heat.  Please contact me off list and let's see if we can trade.
Francelle    Glendale,  AZ   Zone hot!
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Linda Mann 
  To: iris-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 1:45 PM
  Subject: [iris-talk] Re: HYB: old vs new & breeding tougher pinks


  <A pollen dauber has to be an optimist with a lot of patience. Francelle
  Edwards  in AZ>

  Also stubborn! <g>  I'm curious - do you grow PINAFORE PINK (Schreiner
  60s iris)?  It has been a very robust grower here - huge blooms, a bit
  early to be safe here, but fairly resistant to late spring freezes.  Let
  me know if you'd be willing to trial a start of it.  You too, Jeff
  Walters.   I'd like to know how it does in other difficult environments.

  I think a super cross would be HAPPENSTANCE & PINAFORE PINK, if kids
  were properly tortured during selection.  HAPPENSTANCE bloomed here its
  first year, without protection from late freezes, but has been a wimpy
  grower for me also, with miniaturized stalks & blooms the first year and
  none this year.  It is alive, but not happy.  I may try it on top of the
  hill to see if I can get some children.  A few seeds from PINAFORE PINK
  this year, but nothing really appropriate to cross it with for a first
  generation pink.   Some other interesting crosses might be of TRAITOR &
  PINAFORE PINK or KNOTS' LANDING & PINAFORE PINK.  The babies of the
  latter would all be too early here, but would probably take over the
  world.  KL is a super tough grower here, producing west coast sized
  rutabaga rhizomes even in my gravel.

  I agree with your observation that only the tougher oldies have survived
  to become popular & see about the same bell curve for new ones that you
  do, only shifted towards the left :-(  However, the 'better' ones here
  usually are not rampant growers - too vulnerable to stress - but chug
  along at a steady rate.

  We are getting ready for our annual club feeding frenzy this Thursday
  where we combine the current club order (from those wonderful folks at
  Superstition) with increases from previous club orders and hand them out
  to club members to grow for future meetings and public sales.  For the
  first time I can remember, I actually had some increase from club plants
  to donate the first year after planting - HOLLYWOOD NIGHTS, VIOLET
  RETURNS (I thought it was going to die after the spring freeze), REFLETS
  SAFRAN, SULTAN'S HONEY.  None of these bloomed - caught by the late
  freeze - but at least the plants are tough.  Some club plants that had
  increase from previous years - AZURE SEA, ANNE MURRAY (the most reliable
  bloomer here of club plants), DIME A DANCE, KEEPING UP APPEARANCES.  And
  among the 'try this Linda' gimmes from various people - ABBEY ROAD is
  threatening to take over the place (and bloomed well too), ROMANTIC
  EVENING, and KATHLEEN KAY NELSON have also been strong tough growers
  (but also didn't bloom due to late freeze).

  --
  Linda Mann east Tennessee USA zone 7/8
  American Iris Society web site <http://www.irises.org>
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