Re: Re: HYB: PBF history?
- Subject: [iris] Re: Re: HYB: PBF history?
- From: thomas silvers t*@yahoo.com
- Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 05:50:50 -0700 (PDT)
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Dave,
I wonder if some of the original founding
[TB]tetraploids might have been derived directly from
what we're now calling Iris junonia (which definitely
has PBF - purple based foliage). From what Jeff
Walters wrote back in Iris-Talk Jan 2003, there was a
lot of confusion regarding junonia, mesopotamica and
cypriana.
I've cut out a relevant piece from that posting and
pasted it below.
Jeff writes: "I. junonia was described botanically in
1854. The type location is
identified in both Dykes' The Genus Iris and the 1939
AIS Checklist as the
Cilician Taurus, which is the region of Anatolian
Turkey directly north of
the north-east corner of the Mediterranean Sea. Dykes
makes it clear that
junonia is distinct from mesopotamica, but observes
that by his time much
of the stock labeled junonia that was circulating in
Europe was really
mesopotamica or cypriana, which caused a lot of
confusion and led some
authorities to discount junonia as a valid name..."
-- Jeff Walters in northern Utah (HIPS Commercial
Source Chairman)
Also, if you follow this link:
(http://babbage.clarku.edu/~djoyce/iris/conjuration.html)
you can see how prominently cypriana, mesopotamica and
ricardi (a form of mesopotamica) figure into the
ancestry of many of the influential early tetraploid
TB's. If none of these middle Eastern tetraploids had
PBF, it still may be possible that someone was using
what we know as junonia (with PBF) but calling it one
of those other names.
Just a thought.
By the way, does anyone know of any offspring that are
attributed to junonia?
Tom
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