Re: HYB: a rose, an iris, or a balloon?

From araveroisback:

>allow me to whine a moment,
>   jeese leweese, here i was so proud of myself for having a whopping
>five pods from my first season playing

Not to worry.  It's a start and these things vary.  Last year 130 pods -
almost no germination.  First year I think I had only 12 pods, but the
number of plants from germination gave me more than twice the number of
plants.  Some years are just better than others.

>oh before i forget, I was scanning postings the other day and someone
>mentioned Rosemohr, (I think it might have been mentioned in the
>purple pod discussion) and I was wondering whether Rosemohr was
>related to Mohr Pretender?

I don't think it is, really.  At one time there were a number of 'Mohr'
irises and they were very popular in their heyday.  They shared (I think) a
notably wide form compared to their contemporaries of the time and many were
arilbreds.  Others were derived from arilbreds but were eventually
disenrolled because the aril content got too low.  Some got the name based
only on their look.  The name listing of these 'Mohrs' is quite long -
NOMOHR, NEVERMOHR, MOHR MAJESTY, MOHR PINK, MOHR AND MORE, ORMOHR, MOHRNING
DOVE.  Jeff Walters might be able to tell you more about them as a group
since most are now historics.  MOHR PRETENDER, I think, was named as a sort
of tribute to them because it was reminiscent of the wide form they carried.
But a great many of the original 'Mohrs' were descendents of CAPITOLA and
ELMOHR, arilbreds that are ancestors of a lot of registered arilbreds.
ROSEMOHR, in fact can be traced back to one them, but MOHR PRETENDER has a
different heritage altogether and is an OB type arilbred.  ROSEMOHR itself
does not qualify as an arilbred since the aril ancestry is too diluted and
therefore would be considered a TB.  It is its heritage that interests me,
though.  I think there is at least a possibility it is an aneuploid and I
want to experiment with those a bit.  An aneuploid has an extra or missing
chromosome - I guess however you want to look at it - whereas most iris have
an even number of paired chromosomes.  So far as I know, it hasn't been
counted.  But from the ancestry it seems possible to me and the counted ones
are often hard to obtain.  Nearly all those I can ascertain as aneuploids
from having a chromosome count are historic.  Many have probably disappeared
as available plants, but this one seemed a possibility so it found its way
here and got daubed.  Fond as I am of many historics, it is not one of my
favorites though it does have a really nice metallic sheen to it.

Probably mohr than you ever wanted to know.

Donald Eaves
donald@eastland.net
Texas Zone 7b, USA



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