Re: Digest Number 923
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From: "Mary Carter Brown" <mccarbrn@janics.com>
TUMWATER was a median. not wild. I got a start in the mid 80's but lost
it. Mary Brown Region 18
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Date: Sunday, March 05, 2000 2:38 AM
Subject: [iris-talk] Digest Number 923
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>There are 7 messages in this issue.
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>Topics in today's digest:
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> 1. HIST: Seeking YVONNE PELLETIER
> From: hipsource@aol.com
> 2. Re: HYB: Controversy and Disgust
> From: "Donald Eaves" <donald@eastland.net>
> 3. Re: HIST: Richmondtown
> From: "Jeff and Carolyn Walters" <jcwalters@bridgernet.com>
> 4. Re: HYB: Controversy and Disgust
> From: hipsource@aol.com
> 5. HYB: Controversy & Disgust
> From: Sharon McAllister <73372.1745@compuserve.com>
> 6. Re: HYB: Controversy and Disgust
> From: gmbeasle@aol.com
> 7. CULT: TUMWATER IRIS
> From: John I Jones <jijones@ix.netcom.com>
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>Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 23:00:51 EST
> From: hipsource@aol.com
>Subject: HIST: Seeking YVONNE PELLETIER
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>Greetings.
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>If anyone on the list is growing YVONNE PELLETIER (Millet, 1916), would you
>please be so kind as to contact this office?
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>We thank you.
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>Anner Whitehead
>Commercial Source Chairman
>Historic Iris Preservation Society, AIS
>HIPSource@aol.com
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>Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 22:07:30 -0600
> From: "Donald Eaves" <donald@eastland.net>
>Subject: Re: HYB: Controversy and Disgust
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>For visitors in my yard, it has been NOTORIOUS, not THORNBIRD.
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>Donald Eaves
>donald@eastland.net
>Texas Zone 7
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>Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 21:35:48 -0700
> From: "Jeff and Carolyn Walters" <jcwalters@bridgernet.com>
>Subject: Re: HIST: Richmondtown
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>> From: Mike Lowe <mlowe@worldiris.com>
>> American and whether
>> or not he lived close to the old Dutch town at the heart of Richmond
>> is anyones' guess.
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>Close is a relative term, and Staten Island is not overly large, its
>extreme dimensions being about 9 miles from north-to-south and 7 miles from
>east-to-west, but where Kenneth Smith lived is not a matter of guesswork:
>the 1939 AIS Checklist gives his address as 70 Richmond Avenue, and later
>Checklists list it as 221 Benedict Road, Dongan Hills. In Staten Island
>terms, I would say that neither of these is particularly close to
>Richmondtown.
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>> As Ken's borough was named for the Duke of Richmond, illegitimate son
>> of Charles II
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>The dukes of Richmond are still around, BTW, and have become eminently
>legitimate with time. And the boroughs of Kings (aka Brooklyn) and Queens
>were named for the Merry Monarch himself and his much neglected spouse. I
>understand there was quite an uproar when a statue of the latter, Catherine
>of Braganza, was erected about a year ago on account of the involvement of
>her family, the royal house of Portugal, in the slave trade.
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>All of which is not getting you any closer to RICHMONDTOWN (the iris).
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>Jeff Walters in northern Utah (USDA Zone 4/5, Sunset Zone 2)
>jcwalters@bridgernet.com
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>Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 23:59:28 EST
> From: hipsource@aol.com
>Subject: Re: HYB: Controversy and Disgust
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>In a message dated 3/4/00 11:10:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>donald@eastland.net writes:
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><< For visitors in my yard, it has been NOTORIOUS, not THORNBIRD. >>
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>Aha! You caught a thoughtwave, or I did. I nearly asked specifically about
>this iris. Clearly it is not one to send quite the same numbers of folks to
>the barricades as THORNBIRD, but the name is highly suggestive and one does
>hear that some love to hate it a lot. It is really one in a long
progression
>of similarly colored irises. COLOR CARNIVAL comes to mind. I have one
similar
>that Edinger thinks may be TALLY-HO. It is flesh pink with a coral red
beard
>and grape purple staining running half way down the falls. Marvelous thing
>once you get used to its garishness. It doesn't do to be too tasteful all
the
>time. The rainbow goddess must occasionally get down and boogie like the
rest
>of us. It is in her genes, as they say.
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>Anner Whitehead
>HIPSource@aol.com
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>Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 00:01:37 -0500
> From: Sharon McAllister <73372.1745@compuserve.com>
>Subject: HYB: Controversy & Disgust
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>Message text written by Anner Whitehead
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>I shall repeat my question. Does anyone know of any other recent, by which
>I
>mean non-historic, hybrid iris about which people have so enjoyed holding
>and
>expressing such strong and conflicting opinions on the basis of color and
>form? <
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>Arilbreds of "non-standard" breeding are often subjected to this.
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>GENE'S LITTLE SECRET [there's an imposter in distribution to complicate
>matters]
>LAVENDER LEMON ["can't be a 3/4-bred with that branching"]
>TRIBE OF JUDAH [ditto]
>REBEKAH'S VEIL [ditto, plus "can't be an arilbred because it's a plicata"]
>COPE GOODWIN ["has to be at least a halfbred, with that signal"]
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>Etc.! Too many preconceived notions about what an arilbred "should" look
>like....
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>Sharon McAllister
>73372.1745@compuserve.com
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>Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 01:04:57 EST
> From: gmbeasle@aol.com
>Subject: Re: HYB: Controversy and Disgust
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>In a message dated 03/04/2000 10:35:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>hipsource@aol.com writes:
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>> Does anyone know of any other recent, by which I
>> mean non-historic, hybrid iris about which people have so enjoyed
holding
>> and
>> expressing such strong and conflicting opinions on the basis of color
and
>> form?
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>Stepping Out? Or is that non-historic enough.
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>Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 22:58:54 -0800
> From: John I Jones <jijones@ix.netcom.com>
>Subject: CULT: TUMWATER IRIS
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>Anyone ever hear of a Tumwater Iris? I checked a number of my
>references, but can't find anything on it
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>Thanks
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>John
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>Stuart Lewis wrote:
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>> I know very little about iris, but I've been trying to find a Tumwater
Iris
>> for illustration purposes. Would you know if it is wild or garden
variety
>> and/or where I might find it depitcted on the web?
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>> If you can help, thank you!
>> stulouise@msn.com
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>John | "There be dragons here"
> | Annotation used by ancient cartographers
> | to indicate the edge of the known world.
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