Re: HIST: "Fran's Flattie"


From: Mike Lowe <mlowe@worldiris.com>

>--- hipsource@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Sterling, did you check this one against the picture
> > of Jean Witt's unknown
> > on the HIPS page? Let us know if it looks the same,
> > please. Check under
> > Unkowns.
>
>Hi Anner,
>Yes, the picture that Jean posted is the very same
>variety that I grow. I kinda thought it would be. Most
>of us here in Seattle grow it. Carla Lankow has a huge
>clump of it in her garden.
>
>Sterling Okase
>Seattle, Washington, USA
>Zone 8

The really fun bit is speculating what?

What could have been unstable enough to give this mutation?

What old variety matches 'Fran's/Jean's Flattie' closely (except for the form)?

My 'best match' is Edina (Lémon 1840). I haven't been able to get 
anyone else to propose an alternate or to critique my guess. Edina 
has an easily verifiable characteristic that can be matched to 
'Fran's/Jean's Flattie': Edina is very, very, very late. In my garden 
Edina will consistently be the last tall bearded iris in bloom.

Edina is the pod parent of B.Y. Morrison (Sturtevant 18) and B.Y. 
Morrison is one of the latest iris to bloom that I own. (Only beat by 
Edina, it's mama!) So, lateness is a trait that Edina passes to its 
children.

If I can find out if 'Fran's/Jean's Flattie' is a very very late iris 
I can say 'case closed' an Edina child or an Edina sport, and go on. 
If 'F/J's Flattie' is a normal season bloomer I drop the Edina 
hypothesis and look for another match.

But, someone with experience with 'F/J's Flattie' has got to have 
some input and so far the 'F/J's Flattie' display on the HIPS unknown 
page hasn't drawn much comment.

Cheers,

Mike,  mlowe@worldiris.com   --   http://www.worldiris.com
South Central Virginia, USA; USDA Zone 7A


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