Re: HYB: seed germination?


Congratulations, Francelle!

on your germination!  I've printed out your method as an alternative 
if I get lousy germination this year.  I'm hoping that I've gotten 
none yet because we're having the winter now we didn't get in Dec.-
Jan.  Snow yet!  And highs barely out of the 30s.  I'm trusting that 
they'll know when to peek their heads out.  If we hit anywhere near 
the 80s, though, and still no sprouts, I'm going to have a stern talk 
with them!

I'm confused, though, about the pod you brought to maturity.  Surely 
you didn't put the pod itself in water, did you?  Was it still 
attached to its stem, which you put in water?  I thought pods had to 
dry for the seeds to come to maturity.  I'm so confu-u-u-used.  It 
sounds as though the key ingredient in the process to break dormancy 
is water.  Which mine should have had in abundance, since I followed 
directions and soaked daily for ten days until November, when I 
planted them in pots in good potting soil and buried in soil in a 
protected seedbed, where they lived through a November when there 
were only two days without rain.  And an abundance since.  I was 
afraid they'd drown.  Who knows?  I pray to Mother Nature daily.

Patricia Brooks
Whidbey Island, WA, zone 8/9


--- In iris-talk@y..., "FRANCELLE EDWARDS" <fjmjedwards@w...> wrote:
> Hi, fellow pollen daubers and hybridizers, I'm watching my 2001 
crop of seeds starting to sprout.  I follow George Sutton's method of 
preparation as he wrote about in the AIS journal about three years 
ago with a modification suggested by one of our Australian friends 
about soaking them in a certain tank for ten days.  From there I put 
them in a black plastic bag in the bottom of the refrigerator for 14 
weeks (two weeks longer than I intended because I was sick).  On Feb. 
18, I put them in their pots.  I use all kinds of pots, eight inch 
nursery pots for small groups of seeds, under 20, plastic ice cream 
cartons for larger bunches.  These I buried in the garden and covered 
with a seed blanket held about six inches over them which I can 
remove easily.  I have been watering them every other day.  For the 
past three days they have started popping up.
> 
> Last summer as I was grooming one of my iris beds, I accidentally 
cut a stalk that had a green pod of a cross that I really wanted.  I 
thought that since flower stalks mature well in a vase in the house, 
perhaps a seed pod would too; so I put it in a vase by a window where 
it got some sun, changed its water frequently; and it ripened about 
the same time as the others.  I am pleased to report that the seeds 
from that pod are coming up first and fastest.  It is SOUL SISTER X 
ROMANTIC EVENING.  I don't see anything from the one I want most 
though, NEW LEAF X RING AROUND ROSIE, luminata by plicata.  I planted 
over 100 seeds from that one.  I'll have to be patient, and I'm not.  
I have to peek every day.
> 
> The two years I have been using this method I have gotten over 75 
percent germination.  The year I planted the seeds directly into the 
ground, I got less than 50 percent, and I'm not satisfied with that.  
Temperatures here in the last two weeks have been quite variable, 
some days in the high 80's some nights in the low 30's.
> 
> Francelle Edwards   Glendale, AZ  Zone 9
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: storylade@a... 
>   To: iris-talk@y... 
>   Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:15 AM
>   Subject: Re: [iris-talk] Re: HYB: seed germination?
> 
> 
>   In a message dated 3/6/2002 9:11:18 PM Central Standard Time, 
>   randysiris@j... writes:
> 
>   <<  I guess
>   I've rambled on enough...Randy,  >>
> 
>   I know how exciting it is to see your own bloom and to anticipate 
what the 
>   future holds.  I'll never accuse anyone of rambling on.
> 
>   With germination, I guess it might make a difference how and when 
you plant.  
>   I've always planted the seed straight into "mum" pots--the 
shorter eight inch 
>   ones.  I plant between Thanksgiving & New Years . . . around 
Thanksgiving 
>   this year.  No prior soaking or refrigeration.  I do soak the 
seeds each day, 
>   for the first few days, after they are potted. 
> 
>   This created a senerio where the seed are all planted at the same 
time, after 
>   a minimum of 3 months in dry storage.  After that, they are all 
treated the 
>   same.  If one gets water all get water, etc..  
> 
>   To others . . .  I suspect that watching seed sprout (so closely 
too) much 
>   rate somewhere around watching wallpaper dry?  <g>
> 
>   Betty from BG KY USA Zone 6 
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