Re: iris DIGEST V1 #78

> Ummmm. It depends on what you mean by "not too far"
> 
> Mary's garden in Fairplay is a good 3 hours from San
> Jose, as is 
> Superstition. And the two gardens are at least that
> far apart. I 
> haven't been to Mary's in several years, so you
> should check on her 
> bloom before you go. Superstition is, of course,
> fabulous.
> 
> John
> 
> >
> >
>
http://www.worldiris.com/public_html/level2/Catalog.html
> > it the HIPS (Historic Iris Preservation Society)
> > listing of some places that have historic iris for
> > sale/on display.
> >
> > BLUEBIRD HAVEN IRIS GARDEN -- Mary Hess
> > ...6940 Fairplay Rd., Somerset, CA 95684
> > (530) 620-5017. email: jhess@innercite.com
> > website: http://www.bluebirdhavenirisgarden.com
> > ....Catalog: $1.00. No Export
> > Large selection Tall Bearded, 1930s-72. Some
> Irises
> > pre-1900 through 1929. Many not listed in catalog
> -
> > please inquire.
> >
> > Mary Hess is very nice, this place is GREAT to
> > go around in, acres of iris, zillions of historics
> > and also modern ones.
> >
> > SUPERSTITION IRIS GARDENS --Rick Tasco and Roger
> > Duncan
> > ...2536 Old Highway, Dept. H2, Cathey's Valley, CA
> > 95306
> > (209) 966-6277. email: randrcv@sierratel.com
> > ....Catalog $1.50 (refundable with order) Export
> To
> > All, except Australia.
> > Most Bearded Classes, pre-1900-Today.
> > "A unique assortment featuring selections for both
> the
> > beginner and advanced collector."
> >
> > Superstition has historics, and modern ones, and
> > Rick and Roger both hybridize.  They will be
> closed
> > for the three garden tour days of the Convention,
> > as they are a guest garden and will be having
> tours.
> > They are charming and very nice to visit.
> >
> > You could play around with MapQuest
> > http://www.mapquest.com/
> > to find routes -- it's a very fun site if you
> liked
> > the old AAA Trip-tichs (sp?).
> >
> > Gesine
> > -----------------
> >> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 11:26:55 -0500
> >> From: BSILVER02@snet.net
> >> Subject: [iris] traveling man
> >>
> >> hi -- Barry Silver traveling man -- left Ct. with
> >> the first signs of spring showing. Arrive San
> Jose
> > Ca.- > with spring in full bloom -- magnificent
> > indeed.  Unexpectedly I see T.B.s in bloom. Anyway
> --
> > can you all help find me the most interesting
> > horticulture  between here and Portland Oregon --
> I
> > know you can do  it. respond to
> > silverbarry@hotmail.com if offline
> >
> >
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> 
> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 19:17:41 -0600
> From: "Vernon G. Brown" <vgbro@peoplepc.com>
> Subject: RE: [iris] TB:  Good Looking
> 
> It looks like John Bruce at Hidden Acres Iris
> Gardens has some and
> everything we have ordered from there has been
> great. Only place I have
> gotten Hello Darkness from and it not only lived but
> has done well.
> 
> Vernon G. Brown
> Malevil Iris Gardens
> Region 17 - USDA 7
> AIS,ASI,MIS,RIS,SPIS,TBIS
> Lubbock, Texas 79403
> 
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-iris@hort.net
> [o*@hort.net]On Behalf Of Adam
> Cordes
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 9:58 AM
> To: iris@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [iris] TB: Good Looking
> 
> Just looked it up in my older 2000 Schreiner
> catalog.  Where can I get GOOD
> LOOKING?
> 
> Adam~
> 
> 
> John Bruce <jbruce1@cinci.rr.com> wrote:
> Good grower and it's Good Looking too. Survives well
> in
> the southern OH rollercoaster winters. . Nice color,
> nice form.
> 
> John Bruce
> Hidden Acres Iris Gardens
> 
> 
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kelly D. Norris"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 12:42 PM
> Subject: [iris] TB: Good Looking
> 
> 
> > Does anyone have anything to say about this
> cultivar? A Schreiner's
> > intro from 1995.
> >
> >
> >
> > Botanically,
> >
> >
> >
> > Kelly D. Norris
> >
> > Master Gardener/Freelance Writer
> >
> > Bedford, Iowa USA
> >
> > Zone 4b/5a
> >
> > www.rainbowfarms.net
> >
> > http://kellydn03.tripod.com
> >
> > List owner rare-plants
> >
> > Newsletter Editor, Iowa Bluebird Conservationists
> >
> >
> >
> > The love of knowledge is a sort of madness.
> > C. S. Lewis, Out of the Silent Planet
> >
> 
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 18:54:52 -0800 (PST)
> From: Linda Bartell <llbartell@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [iris] LILAC TB's
> 
> <Am not sure exactly how this robin works.>
>  
> Hi Barbara - There's really no rhyme or reason
> sometimes...people get busy and forget about what
> needs answering.  Sometimes you have to ask several
> times ;-)  As someone said earlier, a lot of us do
> more 'reading' (or lurking, if you will) than
> posting.  But this gang is eclectic (and can be
> 'eccentric' ;-))
>  
> All kidding aside, I grow STOLEN DREAMS, which I
> think is either lavender or lilac and very fringed. 
> Also, REINCARNATION is a good grower for me...but
> maybe that's more rosey...  I'll have to go look at
> last year's pics...and watch the bloom on my newest
> ones in May.
>  
> Welcome, Barbara!
>  
> Linda Bartell
> Troy, MI
> Zone 6a
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 21:14:50 -0600
> From: "Donald Eaves" <donald@eastland.net>
> Subject: Re: [iris] LILAC TB's
> 
> Linda,
> 
> >I grow STOLEN DREAMS, which I think is either
> lavender or lilac
> 
> Care to take a stab and tell my what is the
> difference in the colors of
> lilac and lavender?  I've often wondered when the
> terms are used if folks
> are thinking the same color as I do.  I tend to
> think of lilac as...well the
> color of common lilacs so it would have more blue
> than lavender which I
> conjure up as a sort of lilac base with more of a
> rosy pink added.  But my
> references for color often don't correspond well
> when iris colors are being
> described.  When I buy from descriptions I'm often
> surprised.
> 
> Donald Eaves
> donald@eastland.net
> Texas Zone 7b, USA - where the sun may affect those
> described colors in any
> case.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 22:35:02 -0700
> From: "Patrick Orr" <irisdude@msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [iris] TB: Epicenter
> 
> We have our fingers crossed for you John.  Hope your
> LS X RR is a good one,
> especially since it bloomed in one year with loads
> of increases.
> 
> But if not...at least you have a seedling to work
> with that has vigor.
> 
> Patrick
> Phoenix, AZ  Zone 9
> USA
> irisdude@msn.com
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: John Reeds
>   To: iris-talk
>   Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:03 AM
>   Subject: [iris] TB: Epicenter
> 
> 
>   A few rebloomers weakly hanging in, but spring is
> coming!  Epicenter,
> always
>   one of the first here (and good for a few ribbons)
> is coming on strong,
> with
>   lots of stalks rising up.  No color on it yet, but
> soon.
> 
>   Also worth anticipating, it looks like a Louisa's
> Song X Rippling River
>   seedling (sown about 12 months ago) will bloom. 
> Multiple increases on that
>   one, too.  I hope it's in the 1% (keeper)
> category.  Louisa's Song X Night
>   Ruler might bloom too; not sure about that one.
> 
>   John Reeds, 9b southern California
>   lamegardener@msn.com
> 
>   -
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 01:43:44 EST
> From: DWiris@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [iris] LILAC TB's
> 
> In a message dated 3/15/04 10:15:50 PM Eastern
> Standard Time, 
> donald@eastland.net writes:
> 
> > Care to take a stab and tell my what is the
> difference in the colors of
> > lilac and lavender? 
> 
> Hi Donald,
> 
> Perceptions vary.  I always thought lilac was more
> rosy and lavender was more 
> blue.
> 
> Dorothy Willott
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 07:41:19 -0500
> From: Linda Mann <lmann@volfirst.net>
> Subject: [iris] Re: HYB: lilac colored iris
> 
> To complicate things, in addition to 'blue' lilacs
> (lavender?), there
> are those lilacs that are rosy lavender.
> - --
> Linda Mann east Tennessee USA zone 7/8
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 11:40:22 -0500
> From: "Neil A Mogensen" <neilm@charter.net>
> Subject: [iris] Re:  Lavender
> 
> Since my primary breeding work is in the color range
> we're talking about, I
> have made an effort of collect breeders that
> hopefully will thrive here as
> well as give good quality in the seedlings.
> 
> I have obtained things by loosely- defined
> categories.  As time goes on and
> successive seasons pass, the list is being whittled
> down rather sharply,
> either because the cv doesn't please me, or I hear
> too many negative comments
> about its performance
> 
> The loosely-defined groups:
> 
> Hamblen-blooded lilac/lavender/orchid types with
> tangerine beards--I've used
> two that are strong to Hamblen ancestry--Enchanted
> April and Ambroisie.  Both
> have performed well here.  I have seedlings still
> coming on from both but have
> stopped giving space to the latter since I don't
> intend to go further with
> it.
> 
> Schreiner violet-to-orchid/lavender, not tangerine
> bearded, but with probable
> "t" in the pedigree:  Swingtown is the primary one,
> but Lenten Prayer is also
> being given space and used even though I am not
> especially pleased with the
> form but love the color.  Singtown has a lot of
> qualities I especially like,
> and I like most of what I hear about its performance
> from comments on
> Iris-talk.  Hot southern gardens may not be its best
> home--it seems to perform
> better further north;  others include Cranberry
> Sauce, Prince of Pirates as
> outcrosses from the Schreiner line.  I have but do
> not plan to use Diabolique
> much, although the Suttons' have some good things
> from it, and some seedlings
> now growing have Diabolique in their ancestry.  The
> balance of comments made
> privately have been decidedly not positive about
> Diabolique as a parent.
> Others may have had a different experience with it?
> 
> Blyth and Maryott violet, lavender and rose/violet
> bicolors and bitones with
> complex but somewhat similar ancestries:  Debrenee,
> El Cerrito, Louisa's Song,
> Wearing Rubies are the main ones in this group that
> I have kept after seeing
> bloom or know about their progeny, or have not yet
> bloomed and am evaluating
> performance; I have bloomed and kept Man About Town;
> have acquired or am
> acquiring Mastery, Machismo and Decadence.  I expect
> to use this group
> heavily, and have seedlings also from Silk Romance
> now growing.
> 
> Gatty/Keppel pink line orchid, violet bitones and
> selfs, "t": Fashion
> Statement, Fashionably Late, Vienna Waltz--the
> latter appears to be a
> particularly good parent, and has width, ruffles,
> lace and is a survivor-plus
> here;
> 
> Keppel, Ghio "Fogbound" family: numerous seedlings
> with various ones from
> above groups, plus Paris Fashion, Crystal Gazer,
> Venetian Glass and am adding
> this year Adoregon and Treasured; haft width,
> ruffling and branching are
> excellent generally in this group, and colors are
> sparkly clean, and I hear
> high marks given performance and progeny of
> Fogbound;
> 
> Ghio line bred--Romantic Evening, which has been
> very fruitful of the color
> range in its grandchildren, plus some of its more
> vivid offspring such as
> Ocelot, Idol, Fiery Temper, Foreign Legion; also the
> probably related
> Infrared
> 
> Tasco violets to violet/blue:  acquiring Dream
> Express, First Wave to look at,
> consider and very probably use, not only for their
> color but for the more
> extreme ruffling present and I note the good
> comments made about them or their
> immediate ancestors;
> 
> Silverado orchid and violet offspring:  Avalon
> Dreamer, Maid of Avalon,
> Brazenberry, Concise, Thunder Quay--the latter two
> unusually wide hafted.
> Silverado's complex ancestry (white, orchid and
> Schreiner darks) makes it
> especially interesting.  Silverado's own performance
> here has been uneven,
> with apparent susceptibility to yo-yo winter and
> spring temperatures.
> Hopefully at least some of the offspring will be
> more even performers.
> 
> Some others, not easily categorized above:  Poem of
> Ecstasy and
> Shoptalk--which is a premium breeder from what I
> have seen of its
> offspring--and I wait with considerable anticipation
> Merle Roberts'
> introduction of its descendant ROXANNE, now expected
> in 2005.
> 
> Out of these possibilities surely there will be
> fruitful combinations.  I'm
> deliberately crossing distantly related lines in
> order to diverge or move into
> turf that isn't carbon-copy of any of the above
> groups.
> 
> Some examples of the foundation crosses made include
> (Vienna Waltz X sib to
> Power Woman: (Swingtown x Romantic Evening)) for
> example.  One of these
> seedlings was crossed with a closely related (Power
> Woman:(Swingtown x
> Romantic Evening) X Happenstance) seedling.  Power
> Woman itself is somewhat
> lighter than Royal Purple to Plum Purple.  The sib
> is a cranberry-purple-red.
> The two seedlings crossed were both a bright rose
> color, close to my central
> goal, but I am waiting another bloom season to
> evaluate form, substance and
> branching.  What I have seen so far has been too
> limited a sample of their
> behavior to allow me to judge whether to pursue this
> pattern.  So far, they
> look promising.
> 
> If anyone has had a growth problem with any of those
> I've mentioned above, I'd
> sure like to know about it.  My hope is to breed a
> family of widely adapted,
> disease resistant babies.  Dream on!--such may not
> be possible, as those
> growth patterns or qualities that make a cv a
> survivor in Manitoba or Quebec
> may just be opposite those needed for optimum
> performance in Fresno or Fort
> Worth.  I'll take what I get, I guess.
> 
> Neil Mogensen   z   7   western NC  with yo-yo
> winter and spring conditions
> that sure does weed out the weak.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
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