RE: HYB.Breeding for Older Form and the Market


Walter, you said that much better than me.  And that is an impressive,
ambitious list of hybridizing goals.  I know that Tony Huber is working on
#1 and Barry Blyth is working on #2 and #3.  Is anyone working on the
others?

Maureen Mark
Ottawa, Canada (zone 4)

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Walter A. Moores [SMTP:wam2@Ra.MsState.Edu]
> Sent:	Wednesday, March 25, 1998 4:00 PM
> To:	Multiple recipients of list
> Subject:	Re: HYB.Breeding for Older Form and the Market
> 
> 	All of this is tied up in preferences, and I would hate to label
> any form as preferred (but probably have as you read on).  Marie Caillet
> has always stressed this in the LA judges' training schools she has
> taught, and I believe it applies to non-bearded as well as bearded irises
> to a certain extent.
> 
> 	Naturally, older forms (hanging, drooping, pinching) are
> characteristic of another era, but that was acceptable then as the
> standard form and is acceptable now when viewing historic collections.  It
> is highly speculative that a 1998 introduction with historic form would
> garner awards from AIS judges.
> 
> 	Lace, ruffling, wider hafts, and flaring falls were results of
> breeding in the sixties and later.  But, when some got so lacy, so 
> ruffled, or so wide they couldn't open without help, there came a limit as
> to how much lace or ruffles or how wide the hafts could get before these
> features posed a problem. Horizontally flared falls pose problems for
> photographers!
> 
> 	In the late fifties, Lloyd Austin developed the first Space Age
> irises, and to this day they are abhorred by many.  Whether you like them
> or not, there is a market for them and more and more hybridizers are
> turning their attention to this group.  But, I have already experienced
> bloom on some that are so flounced, they get tangled up in their own parts
> and cannot open without some help from the gardener.
> 
> 	I don't know if I have answered Donald's post but some of what I
> said may constitute parameters, history,  preferences, and limitations.
> 
> 	For the future I would like to see hybridizers work on the
> following:
> 
> 	1. More interspecie crossing with the beardless.
> 
> 	2. Getting the spot pattern into TB's and tall quarter arils.
> 
> 	3. More 'exotic' coloration in bicolor TB's with contrasting
> beards (Black stds., pink falls, and a blue beard). 	
> 	
> 	4.SDB's that meet their registered heights.
> 	
> 	5.Tet Louisianas that open properly and are not so cold sensitive
> 	
> 	6.JI's that peak with or just after TB's (before it gets too hot
> in the South).
> 
> 	And I would expect all of these to be rot-proof, scorch-proof,
> insect/animal-proof, etc.
> 
> 
> 	Walter Moores
> 	Enid Lake, MS 7/8
> 



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