RE: SHOW: Tough judges
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- Subject: RE: [iris-talk] SHOW: Tough judges
- From: S* S*
- Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 23:12:44 -0400
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Bill,
Yes, perfection is nice, and often the fish that comes the closest to that
is judged as "Best of Show". However, when placing, there are many reasons
why there may not be something that cannot be considered, truly, a first
place winner and awarded the coveted blue ribbon. Unfortunately, I am
afraid I do not know enough about the judging of iris, what the judges are
specifically looking for, to be able to aptly compare fish and iris judging
head to head. I don't know if you know enough about fish to make any sense
of what I am to say so that you can aptly compare yourself.
If a class is poor enough, some specimens are underfed, others have health
issues, others are problematic in their deportment, there may be one that
does not sufficiently rise to the top of the group to make it worthwhile, in
a good judge's estimation, to give it a first place. There is some major
defect in the fish that, while it is the better specimen, makes it not
worthy of placing that high in the class, even though it may be the best
fish there. While we are all supposed to be striving for perfection, should
there be some limit under which the striving is not deemed to be great
enough?
\\Steve//
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-----Original Message-----
From: William Stone [w*@volcano.net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 11:17 AM
To: iris-talk@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [iris-talk] SHOW: Tough judges
Steve;
I do agree with many of your points but the one of mine of "judgeing
what is on the table or at the show" is critical. I don't care what system
you use to judge but to eliminate awards because of a system depicting a
perfect iris is expected is wrong. That iris might not be grown in any
given year, and you should not juge growth in Florida against Oregon,
tc.( different areas different conditions ) I believe the organizations
that recognize not everyone is a "Professional" have more popular support.
I believe the larger the number of participants the greater the need for the
perfect iris and judging, but not until the competition is there! I
believe one of the main purposes for the AIS is for the envolvement of all
iris lovers. The awards should not be cut down because of the quality of
the iris but posibly reduced due to lack of contestants.
As for my garden "Ma Nature" and "public demand" controls. Bill
Stones Iris Garden
Recovering from another bout with nature.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Szabo" <stevesz@erols.com>
To: <iris-talk@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 1:55 AM
Subject: RE: [iris-talk] SHOW: Tough judges
> Bill,
>
> Judging against what is there is not very fair, actually, and it can lead
to
> a lot of complications. I am actually quite surprised to hear something
> like this coming from one who deals in iris. I would expect you to, at
> least publicly, adhere to a higher standard. After all, if you are at
least
> perceived to have the greatest iris, and not necessarily the best of a
poor
> lot, would it not be good for your business?
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