Re: CULT: Trashing Irises

Patrick, 
I can assure you that all successful hybridizers trash iris.  It's the dark side of hybridizing that we don't always talk about with all iris lovers.  This year's iris seedlings 99.9% will be gone in 5 years.  90% of the newer stuff that I buy will be gone also. I've give bags of iris away every year knowing that they won't get planted and its how there trash.  Wide Hips is a terrible grower that I struggled with for years. Now I have a few seedlings that are better growers and I trashed Wide Hips.  And the trashing goes on and on and on.  Wish you the best in your HYB program.

 

Merle

merle & linda roberts
irisbuff@televar.com
http://www.televar.com/~irisbuff/

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Patrick Orr 
  To: iris-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 12:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [iris-talk] CULT: Trashing Irises


  Walter,

  I have posted a photo I took of my Fogbound on IRIS PHOTOS.  I want everyone to see what it looks like before you do any trashing.

  I think I am one of the only ones in Arizona growing this iris.  I like it in spite of its lack of bright bold coloring.  There is pink undertones radiating from the throat, but the way our sun bleaches out the coloring in irises, you wouldn't notice it if you were not looking for it.

  HOWEVER, I have been reading a lot of how FOGBOUND has been throwing some really pretty seedlings in pastel shades.  I think the form of the flower is great.  It has somewhat normal vigor for me (3 increases last year), but sometimes the irises from the north need more than one year to acclimate to my climate, and when it does it may become more vigorous.   

  I would like to suggest you try a few crosses with it or give it away to someone you know that is trying to hybridize.  It is among other things, a DARKTOP.  With the pink in the throat, I can see the possibilities and plan to start using it next year to try to obtain some red bearded reverse neglectas.   

  It just kills me to know someone it throwing it out when I am trying to increase it so I have lots of bloom and pollen to work with :)

  Patrick Orr
  Phoenix, AZ  Zone 9
  USA



  ----- Original Message -----
  From: wmoores
  Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 4:41 AM
  To: iris-talk@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [iris-talk] CULT: Trashing Irises




  On 12 May 01, at 22:17, alhbee@aol.com wrote:

  >Rebloomers Spirit of Fiji and Fiji
  > Dancer have never bloomed and I am thinking of trashing the two. Any
  > comments?
  >
  > Al Bullock
  > Sterling, No. Va. zone 7
  >

  Al, you do what you gotta do.

       I am trashing the following rather new irises because they
  bloomed!  They have been here since their year of introduction.

       FOGBOUND because it is a rather colorless, blah iris, nowhere
  near the beauty of its parent WISHFUL THINKING.  A big
  disappointment.  I never found the pink mentioned in its description.

      CHAMPAGNE FROST because of lack of contrast.  It later got rot
  and I didn't even treat it  . . just let it go.

      MANDELA because the form is funky and the color is not even
  ordinary.

      ENNOBLE because of its bud count of three.

     The following has not bloomed, and I have had it two years:

     LAUGH LINES


     Maybe it is my soil because the other introductions from these
  hybridizers were great this year.  2001 was a great bloom season,
  except for these and a few others.    Funny thing in looking back
  over this list, I ordered only one of these irises.  Were the others
  introduced as extras? Or, do the hybridizers not know my tastes when
  it comes to gift irises?

  This is not an indictment of the hybridizers of these irises.  I grow
  tons of their irises and use them in my own lines, but occasionally I
  get some I wonder about.  It is probably that I am just too picky or
  some irises need more TLC than I can give for them to be at their
  best.

  Walter Moores
  Enid Lake, MS USA 7/8



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